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This lad is having no luck at all with injuries,shame really as he looks the real deal,hopefully he gets a wee break and he gets himself injury free and into the first team

I wonder if it's worth having a bet for a pars player to get sent off?:devil:

Even if we have to pay compensation he would be worth a punt IMO.He is the kind of player who has pace and likes to take players on,exactly what we need at the moment.Joining a better team can make you a better player.

The manager was quoted as saying he wanted Ness to play in this game?. Good wingers/players can play either side and offer different options. Maybe SA wanted to see how he performed on the right as a replacement for Naismith?.

I can now:redface:

I get on to the next page of this thread?

Nice to see Fleck on the score sheet again,wonder why Ness never featured?

I remember having a good few tussles with the Talbot in scottish cup ties,you always knew you were in a game when you drew them in the scottish cup,they are also mental and it can be very intimidating playing at their ground,durty bassas really:tongue:

That is always the case,and worry.It would be hard for Rangers to turn down double what we paid for him.

CREEP'S ODIOUS DEFENCE OF GREEN BRIGADE IT is hardly any wonder that the Times of London’s Scottish edition’s circulation is now barely 19,000 and tumbling. Odious Creep’s defence of the Green Brigade in a paper which is increasingly discredited by his presence, is the perfect example of the problem he poses the paper Creep is a curious fellow. Someone who appears to have no sense of self awareness and someone who fails to see how he contradicts himself with almost every sentence he scribbles. There is also the way his ramblings fly in the face of the carefully considered and crafted views of the some of the best writers and pundits who operate at the peak of the profession these days. Guys such as the Daily Record’s Jim Traynor. The Herald’s Michael Grant, my old buddy the wonderfully waspish and often insightful Hugh Keevins in his always superb Sunday Mail column, plus, in my humble opinion, the best of them all, a man at the top of his game, Tom English of the Scotsman and Scotland on Sunday, who can also be heard regularly on Radio Scotland. These are the top operators who have been stealing all of Creep’s thunder with their superb journalism in condemnation of the Green Brigade’s vocal support for the IRA and what English so superbly branded, Parkhead Paddywackery. So how did Creep respond to being firmly put in his journalistic place by so many of his professional betters? Well, like a frustrated seven year old who is being ignored in the primary school playground, he stamped his foot and he cried and he cried until he was sick. Or at least left all sensible people feeling a little squeamish. For his defence of the Green Brigade in Monday’s Times of London Scottish edition was no more than an attention seeking scream. It’s an old trick which Odious Creep has resorted to often. And in the past it has often worked. But the circus crowd soon grows tired of a one-trick pony. Especially when you can blow smoke through the holes in his childish arguments. In the case of his defence of the Green Brigade the hole appeared early when he asserted that many of those who criticised the Green Brigade had no right to, as they did not visit Parkhead or go to away games with Celtic. Yet on Saturday he did not make it to the Inverness press box until just before half time. At least that was earlier than when Rangers played Dundee United at Ibrox in their last match before the UEFA Cup Final and he didn’t arrive until near the end. His excuse, I believe, was that he had not known what time the game kicked off and assumed it to be at three. It started, if memory serves me, at 12.30. But back to Inverness and events which took place before Creep was at the game. Tom English, in Scotland on Sunday, wrote that there was a minor, shortlived and very faint outbreak of IRA singing after three minutes. Creep could neither confirm or deny that, as he was not there. He wasn’t at Hampden yesterday for the big SPL-SKY-ESPN £80MILLION five year contract story either. The Times of London was the only national newspaper not represented at this important announcement. Just it was not represented a week earlier when Creep did not appear when Terry Butcher held court. Paul Gascoigne was the name on everyone’s lips after his weekend soul baring television appearance. When Butcher was asked about him, his former England captain offered revelations which made startling stories for the Scottish AND English editions. The Daily Telegraph, for instance, gave the Butcher story about Gazza due prominence. Anyone, with a whit of news sense, sensed a decent tale. Odious Creep did not even bother turning up and working for his Times of London paymasters. He did though, on the same day, find time for a paid for interview with his wee pal at BBC Scotland’s Reporting Scotland, Chris McLaughlin and also managed to fit in a two hour paid for appearance on the Radio Clyde phone in that night. Both the BBC and Radio Clyde at least got some Odious Creep babble in return for the few quid he trousered. The Times of London got exactly nothing from him about a story about Gazza, in return for the £100,000 a year they pay him. All last week the big stories and main men commenting on them, skipped away from Creep, leaving him having to resort to his old attention seeking trick with an in-the-face-of-all-sound-sense-defence of the Green Brigade. His attention seeking stunt has worked again. This time, just not in the way Odious Creep thought it would.

Transfer window coming up!,Rangers tax case!,nothing else to right about!,usual shite from our mHedia!

GREEKS EYEING CASH PLUS PLAYER SWAP DEAL WITH GERS OLYMPIACOS could use £2 million-rated Greek striker Kostas Mitroglou as bait in their bid to land Rangers keeper Allan McGregor. Express Sport revealed last week that the Greek champions were considering a move for McGregor while the Light Blues had Mitroglou watched at the weekend. Ibrox chief scout Neil Murray saw the 23-year-old, on-loan from Olympiacos, net for Atromitos in their 1-1 home draw with Levadiakos.Murray was also impressed with Atromitos midfielder Andreas Tatos but that area of the park is not a priority. FREE NEWS UPDATES 24/7...FOLLOW THE SCOTTISH EXPRESS ON TWITTER Murray, speaking in Greek newspaper Goal, said: “He [Mitroglou] has good technical ability, performs good runs, but his team in this game did not utilise him as they should.” Mitroglou, who has nine caps, has been told he isn’t part of Olympiacos coach Ernesto Valverde’s plans and so has been sent out on a season-long loan. ì I want to have an overall picture of the players and the level of the Greek league î Ibrox chief scout Neil Murray McCoist has made another frontman his priority and already has a string of options. If the feedback on Mitroglou is positive then it could persuade McCoist to make a move. The Rangers boss felt he was short of striking options when the window closed but that situation has now worsened as Stevie Naismith has done his cruciate and has been ruled out for the season. That has left the main goalscoring burden on the shoulders of Nikica Jelavic – who, himself, could be the subject of interest when the January window re-opens. McCoist has played Jelavic and Kyle Lafferty together but out with that he has limited options, with David Healy the only front man with any real experience. The Rangers boss has sent his scouting network all across the globe to try and find suitable attacking options. A lack of a cutting edge was apparent at the weekend as the SPL champions slipped up when they failed to score against St Johnstone at the weekend. Chief scout Murray also took in the Olympiacos v Panathinaikos derby and AEK Athens v Asteras Tripolis over the weekend. He confirmed “I want to have an overall picture of the players and the level of the Greek league.” Rangers currently have out-of-contract winger Sone Aluko on trial and he is set to play a closed-door game this afternoon. Aluko has done well and if he impresses then a deal could be offered, depending on whether or not compensation would have to be paid to Aberdeen. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/285186/Greeks-eyeing-cash-plus-player-swap-deal-with-Gers

I can't see him going to LEICESTER full stop,but if he gets a chance to go to the EPL he could go in January if the cash is right?,rumour has Newcastle interested in him.

Don't why the other thread was locked?. I was just thinking would SKY/ESPN have signed the deal if Rangers would not be part of that deal?.I'm sure the BHEASTS will be thinking a secret deal has been done to '' save Rangers '', which of course would keep Scottish football alive.:smile:

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LEICESTER have told Rangers they will make a £7.5million January bid for Nikica Jelavic. Ibrox owner Craig Whyte rejected a £6.5m bid from the Foxes for Jelavic in August. The big spending Championship side remain interested in the Croat who has netted 11 goals this season for Ally McCoist's side. Last month's sacking of Sven-Goran Eriksson won't stop Leicester's wealthy Thai owners stepping up their chase for Jelavic as a gift for new boss Nigel Pearson. With Gers' finances remaining precarious and a potentially crippling £49m tax bill looming it's highly unlikely Gers chief Whyte could afford to snub such an improved offer for Jelavic. The 26-year-old hitman cost £4m from Rapid Vienna in 2010 and has since delivered 30 goals from 40 starts. That's despite Jelavic missing almost four months of last season through injury. Boss McCoist desperately hopes all bids for his main frontman can be rebuffed and has been in constant dialogue with Whyte over their transfer window plans. He remains worried, however, an offer will come in that can't be refused. SunSport also understands Sheffield United are still keen to lands Gers' fringe men John Fleck and Kyle Hutton on loan deals. Blades boss Danny Wilson was left gutted back in August after a move for the duo fell through, but he will try again for the youngsters. Fleck was a sub in Saturday's 0-0 draw against St Johnstone while midfielder Hutton has impressed on loan at Partick Thistle since September. Meanwhile, Gers have joined a host of Premiership clubs in tracking Dulwich Hamlet centre-half Michael Chambers, 17. The 6ft 2ins prospect is also being watched by Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur. Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3950827/This-time-Gers-cant-say-no-to-Foxes.html#ixzz1eQLgxSI3

CALEY THISTLE star Jonny Hayes ripped into referee Stevie O'Reilly and claimed Celtic had 14 MEN. Hayes hit out on Twitter within hours of his side's 2-0 loss and said: "It's always hard playing Celtic and their 14 men." Hayes — seething at O'Reilly's decision to red card Caley ace Greg Tansey for his clash with Georgios Samaras — followed it up by tweeting to Tansey: "See u soon pal! U should have a nice dinner to celebrate gettin that red overturned!! iftheresanyjustice." The 24-year-old, whose username is jonnyhayes7, spent the rest of Saturday exchanging a series of tweets with Celts fans. And he went on to brand O'Reilly's decision 'dodgy' as he tried to wind up Hoops supporters. One Hayes tweet read: "Hahaha lovin the Celtic banter. Conspiracy?? Against who?? Come on at least admit yous got (another) dodgy decision!" And another said: "Hahaha this is brilliant. How many more Celtic fans are gonna bite?! Il admit you were the better team. When it was 11v10." SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny is now likely to study Hayes' comments before deciding what action will be taken. Meanwhile, Hayes' gaffer Terry Butcher is also facing SFA action. Butcher was asked if he would appeal Tansey's red card and blasted back by branding the SFA's new fast-track appeals committee a 'kangaroo court'. A seething Butcher said: "I'm obviously going mad about the sending off. "I have seen it several times and it is a deadly assault by a fingernail. "It was not even a yellow card never mind a red card. "There's no justice in the appeals. It's a kangaroo court as far as I'm concerned." Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3948134/Caley-Thistle-star-in-twitter-rap.html#ixzz1eMAuoF00

Sky Sports and ESPN have reached a new agreement to cover the Scottish top flight until the end of the 2016/17 season. The Scottish Premier League has agreed a new five-year television deal with Sky Sports and ESPN on improved terms. An announcement is yet to made on the figures involved, but they will better the previous deal, which saw the league receive £65m over three seasons. The SPL's previous agreement with Setanta, which was cancelled upon the collapse of the company in 2009, was for £125m over four seasons, the equivalent of £31.25m per year. The new deal will see 30 games broadcast across the two channels each season. More to follow... http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/aberdeen/281116-spl-announce-new-tv-deal/

Kostas Mitroglou and Andreas Tatos were both watched by Neil Murray at the weekend. Greece international duo Kostas Mitroglou and Andreas Tatos have been given a glowing recommendation by Rangersâ?? chief scout Neil Murray. Murray was in Greece taking in a number of Super League fixtures over the weekend and was impressed with both players, who turned out for Athens-based club Atromitos in their 1-1 home draw with Levadiakos. Striker Mitroglou, who is on loan from Olympiacos, has scored five goals in nine appearances this season and was on target for his side at the weekend. Tatos, an attacking midfielder, has been with Atromitos since 2008 but signed for Olympiacos in the summer, before being loaned back for the season. Mitroglou, 23, has represented Greece at full international level, earning nine caps. He started his career with Borussia Monchengladbach, before returning home in 2007. Tatos, who was born in Albania, was in the Greek squad for a friendly against Bosnia in August but is yet to make an international appearance. â??He [Mitroglou] has good technical ability, performs good runs, but his team in this game did not utilise him as they should,â? Murray told Greek newspaper Goal, in which he also described 22-year-old Tatos as the "best player in the matchâ?. Murray, who also took in AEK v Asteras Tripolis and Olympiacos' derby with Panathinaikos, said of his trip: â??I want to have an overall picture of the players and the level of the Greek league.â? http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/281096-rangers-scout-greek-international-duo/

Add the fouls per yellow card stat 1 – Celtic – 13.00 fouls per booking 2 – Dundee Utd – 7.94 fouls per booking 3 – Rangers – 7.28 fouls per booking 4 – Aberdeen – 6.54 fouls per booking 5 – Motherwell – 6.44 fouls per booking 6 – Inverness CT – 6.21 fouls per booking 7 – Dunfermline – 6.05 fouls per booking 8 – Kilmarnock – 5.95 fouls per booking 9 – Hibs – 5.86 fouls per booking 10 – Hearts – 5.70 fouls per booking 11 – St Mirren – 5.29 fouls per booking 12 – St Johnstone – 5.17 fouls per booking (as of 2 weeks ago)

Monday, 21 November 2011 11:21 At a meeting between senior civil servants, police, government department officials and representatives of various supporters trusts it was made clear fans can still change the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications ( Scotland) Bill. Time is running out but the RST urges itâ??s members and supporters to make the effort to contact your MSP (particularly SNP ones) and lobby them to oppose the Bill. You can find your local MSP here - http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/msps.aspx Action and debate by fans has already seen all the opposition parties in the Scottish Parliament come out to vote against the Bill due to itâ??s potentially harmful effects on civil liberties. This coming Tuesday the Justice Committee of the parliament will undertake a line-by-line analysis of the Bill and a discussion on the amendments. If you email the members there is still a chance they can include amendments to particular clauses. You can find the members of the Justice Committee here - http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/parliamentarybusiness/CurrentCommittees/29845.aspx. This session will be streamed live on the web. The proposed Stage 3 session of the full Parliament is expected to be in December where there will be a substantive vote and the Bill can pass into law and possibly be active by February next year. At the meeting with supporters trust it was clear that the opposition to the Bill has had some effect with the government, for example, offering some concessions to religious groups with amendments to make clear there would be no interference with freedom of expression, robust criticism and the ability to proselytise for converts. However, all the trusts represented remained opposed to the Bill in itâ??s entirety as we regard it as injurious to the civil right of football fans and given the now highly politicised atmosphere around football matches almost any boisterous behaviour inside a football ground will be liable to prosecution on the basis of not just sectarianism but of offensiveness. Allied to that the Bill seeks to lower the level of proof needed with regard to Breach Of The Peace style offenses from a potential of actual public disorder to one merely of the potential to cause â??fear and alarm.â? http://www.rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk/rstsite/latest-rst-news/406-fans-can-still-influence-the-football-bill

Aye, I also thought it was a good game. Charlie Adam played well also.

Agreed. If you're not sure how can you guess?,it wasn't even a yellow card IMO.

It's a funny old world. There's old Sepp Blooter being kicked from pillar to post for claiming racism in football can be sorted with a handshake at the final whistle. But what's the difference between his attitude and that of the apologists who've spent decades saying the same about Scottish football and sectarianism? For as long as I've been campaigning against this cancer, Celtic and Rangers people have shrugged that it'll never change, that it's just the way things are and, yes, at the end of the day it's all just banter. You know, like everyone goes back to work on Monday morning and no one ever mentions it until the next Old Firm game. Aye, right. And some of Enoch Powell's best friends were black. Blooter is an out-of-touch idiot. No more so, though, than all those who've listened to bigoted bile all their lives but have said and done nothing about it. Or at least, not until it becomes an easy target. At Rangers, that was when UEFA started getting heavy and it was conveniently blamed on The Minority. Now, at Celtic, the spectre of sectarianism also has a name. The Green Brigade. A deeply unpleasant bunch whose craving for attention makes them stick out like a big, poisoned sore thumb. And who make it so much easier for the apologists to finally take a stand, especially when they can cover their a**es by writing that these people are an affront to the rest of the Celtic support. But in the days when there was no Green Brigade, just a following commonly known as The Greatest Fans In The World, some Celtic punters still sang about the IRA and FTQ and the rest of the megamix. Yet the same keyboard heroes who now want to change the world never said a dickybird. Why? Because they make their living off following the Old Firm and wouldn't survive without them. Now, though? What a great out The Green Brigade give them. Pin the whole sectarian thing on one corner of Parkhead while making sure everyone else in the stadium knows you love and respect them like family. Same went for Rangers and The Minority, a tag that allowed pundits to pontificate the sweeping generalisation that "most decent Rangers fans will be outraged by their behaviour" and everyone would be happy, because no one had to face up to the less palatable truth. Which is, as with Celtic right now, that the use of abusive and bigoted language at both clubs is so institutionalised as to almost become as natural as breathing in and out. Let's leave the organised chanting and banner waving aside. And address the fact that not a game goes by at Parkhead without opposing fans, opposing players, referees, linesmen and the media being referred to as Orange B******s. Just as not a game goes by at Ibrox without opposing fans, opposing players, referees, linesmen and the media (often the same people as were at Parkhead the previous week) being routinely referred to as Fenian B******s. Yet what do police and stewards do? Hee-haw. They sling a deafy, because to wade in and haul out everyone who yelled something offensive, not to mention illegal, would mean all leave being cancelled in neighbouring constabularies while they wheeched offenders off to the cells. Sadly, the same goes for 99 per cent of the media. Even if they're the ones being abused, how often do we read any mention of sectarianism in their copy? How often does a radio or TV commentator refer to clearly-audible bile in their coverage? Come to think of it, how often have you sat there as a non-Old Firm fan and shaken your head as The Billy Boys or The Boys Of The Old Brigade strikes up and the guy on the mic tells you that "the fans are in great voice"? No one's wanted to get involved. No one's wanted to put their head above the parapet and get it shot off by some deranged nutjob. So they've heard no evil and reported no evil. And even now, when there's an identifiable enemy, the language from on high used to deal with them is still so wishy-washy it wouldn't frighten a three-year-old into eating their broccoli. Cops "want to hold to talks" with The Green Brigade. Neil Lennon wants "to sit and sort things out" with them. B******s to that. They know who these people are. They know where their seats are. They've got the CCTV and telly footage of them in action. So if the police and Celtic are truly serious about about sorting them out, then just bloody well sort them out. Take their season tickets off them. Ban anyone who buys an away game ticket for them. You don't negotiate with bullies and that's all this mob are, bullies who abuse and harass anyone who doesn't follow their agenda. Ask the Strathclyde Police press officer whose family have been subjected to horrendous abuse since the story broke that Celtic were being investigated. The Green Brigade and their Ibrox counterparts are two sides of the same coin. They are the flea-ridden tail that wags the dog. Just let's not kid ourselves that the dog couldn't use a right could fumigating. I'm with those who say Blooter's position as head of FIFA is still untenable despite an apology for his complacency over racism. Wonder when we'll hear the word sorry from those whose life-long attitude to sectarianism has been just as off-hand? Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/columnists/billleckiesports/3947514/At-last-we-turn-on-the-zealots.html#ixzz1eKcyE4gz

MOTHERWELL chief executive Leeann Dempster fears fans are being driven away from the game by barmy rules. Fir Park's powerbroker spoke out after Well supporters were chucked out of Pittodrie for standing up during Saturday's SPL clash with Aberdeen. The Lanarkshire club have been inundated with complaints from disillusioned supporters in the wake of their 2-1 win. During the match, a number of Well fans were ejected after altercations with stewards. It is understood the problems began due to a small section of the visiting support standing up. Dempster said: "Clubs have guidelines but each club uses its own interpretation. "We are prepared, to an extent, to tolerate some things and we work to engage with the fans. I heard our fans were told not to travel to Aberdeen with any flags or any drums. "A couple of years ago Kilmarnock fans brought a load of inflatables. The stewards waded into the section and took them away and I wondered why. "What is offensive or dangerous about inflatables? It was just a bit of fun and no one else in the ground seemed to mind, yet they were confiscated. "We're asking people to come and pay money. When they've paid we're telling them they can't sing, shout, stand up or dance around. "I fear they might start to ask themselves, Why are we coming? Why am I paying money for this?" Dempster will today investigate the situation with the club's safety officer Alan Marshall and has made it clear she is no way critical of Aberdeen and will not make judgments about the treatment of her team's fans or draw any conclusions about the incidents until she is in possession of all the facts. But she knows the bandwagon for standing areas in SPL stadiums is rolling again and believes that could help the situation. Dempster has discussed the matter with the SPL's Neil Doncaster and understands inconsistency in the upholding of the rules annoys punters. Aberdeen fans contacted radio stations on Saturday night defending the Motherwell fans and claimed Old Firm supporters get away with standing at Pittodrie when others don't. Dempster said: "A couple of years ago, the debate was raised about safe-standing and a few eyes rolled, believing that this situation had already been covered and discussed. "But I think that, as the financial squeeze has come, it's changing again. Fans always ask the question about sitting down and they also get upset by it sometimes. "It's obvious that when you're talking about 4000 or 5000 people it can inflame a situation to wade in there. But that irks the supporters who then ask why they would be put out for standing up. "How are we going to tell our supporters to do something when there are occasions when it doesn't get done by others? "Of course you can't have it happen all round the ground but in certain situations there has to be a judgment call if there is no danger to safety." Dempster is convinced that making the matchday experience as enjoyable as possible for everyone is the way ahead. She said: "We have a great relationship with our supporters. There has been a bit of leeway because we encourage fans to bring their flags and drums and to make some atmosphere. "We have a group of supporters who bring masses of colour to games. "We ask them about how they want to support the team and they say by standing up, by bringing their flags and banners. "There is an understanding that if we tell them to sit down or tell them something is not acceptable they abide by those rules and we work as a group. "We have said that if some of their flags are too big to carry around, we could store them for them. We engage with these guys. "So far nothing untoward has happened and the discussions we're having with them seem to be working. We feel it's the way ahead." Motherwell Supporters Trust board member Joe Smith revealed what he witnessed at Pittodrie. He said: "About 20 of our young fans were targeted by the stewards for standing up after Motherwell scored 10 minutes into the game. "They were told to sit down and I think they did but one of them got up and started singing 'Stand up for the Motherwell' which obviously annoyed the stewards. "Five heavy-handed stewards waded in and dragged the lads out the ground kicking and screaming. It wasn't fair because hundreds of Aberdeen supporters stood up when their team scored and the stewards didn't even blink an eyelid." Daily RHebel