Super_Ally

Got to say I'm in a small merry band of ex smokers who think smokers are treated appallingly. That said, whilst I support the rights of the smoker as much as possible, these daft actions will hurt no-one but the club. I've heard people moaning about the stewards not doing anything, but lets be honest here, who would fancy telling half a dozen folks to put them out in the lavvies at half time.

It can be very busy and I;d imagine very dangerous for an authority figure on their own to try and enforce it.

My view? the law should step in. Bit draconian, but if people cant behave with the most basic of requests, then all rights to "due process" need to be forfeited I'm afraid.

And, let me say again, I am very pro-smoking as an ex smoker!

Why should people be allowed to affect my health because of an unnecessary habit? add to that it smells foul too.

1 succesful sining out of 12?

I assume they are including the likes of Furman in this which is unfair as he was not bought to go straight into the team.

Super Ally, fair marks, still disapointed in the performance overall, we really should be hamering these teams at home, however as it stands a win is a win and hopefully we start to play the way we should be playing, things can only get better, WATP.

Yep, hopefully we can build from here and a decent performance to picking u the points.

Agreed.

Real pet hate of mine as I find many smokers to be simply ignorant.

Their filthy little habit is more important than my health apparently?

Well no, the players are profesionals and if they're doing they're job then what does it matter to them, they would know if nobody turned up for the games, but how can you have a go at people for leaving early, it's up to them,personally i stay to the end, but they pay they're money so if they don't want to stay to the end then it's they're loss.

Have to agree to disagree then.

I'm sorry...i'm not trying to be patronising.....but you have to admit...there are people on here that just don't see what is happening, and it's nothing to do with opinion....... it's fact.

Fair do's mate. There are some you could describe in that manner.

Aye, but people can do what they want..........IMO.....as long as they turn up to support the team considering there is some fans that want fans not to turn up as a protest......i stay to the end and i don't care if fans leave early

Well have you read Boyd and Henry's comments that seeing fans leave early in numbers is noticed by players and impacts on their performance? Does that change your opinion at all?

Agree Del, unfortunately there are a lot of people on this site that don't see what DM is doing to the club, however if we keep educating them on here they will eventually see what we are talking about.

Thats a bit patronising mate. People may disagree with you, doesn't mean they need educating they just have a difference of opinion.

For the record I'm not in the anti murray crowd, like the guys from FF who beleive he has done nothing right. Neither am I a "Murrayite", I beleive the guy has fucked up. Personally I think his time has come up, as happened with McLeish.

Appreciate some of what he has done but it's time to say goodbye.

I think there is more to worry about than fans leaving early.........!!!!!!!

Still worth talking about imo. We'll multi-task

I'd say you have them spot on there mate. Prso seemed to get a big lift from the opening goal and after that he looked much stronger.

 

Can't disagree with any of the ratings. Nothing too OTT as we didn't really play all that well once more.

 

Cheers.

Have to admit I probably do have a tendency to be generous in awarding player ratings to the bears. Can't help myself.

How did everyone view the game today then?

McGregor 6 Little to do but handled it well.

Hutton 7 Relatively untroubled at back, got forward very well

Smith 8 Mom and a great goal

Hemdani 6 Pars rarely threatened but never a CB

Svensson 6 As I say easy day for defence, good distribution

Adam 6 Flitted in and out

Fergie 7 Solid game

Clement 6 Ok lost ball a few times

Martin 4 Quiet subbed at HT

Prso 7 Worked hard and involved in the goals

Novo 7 Good work rate

Subs

Boyd 7 added goal threat

Sebo and Rae no time to impress

Not sure on ratings of the midfield tbh, noone really stood out for me there.

the guys on the bus.

 

i dont like leaving early as I never used to have to. But since I switched buses I need to as the others on the bus leave before fulltime

If you're paying for the privelege of using the bus it should bloody wait.

Not your fault i know and probably hard to change their routine but it should be done.

87 Mins lol , if I could stay longer I would , im always going to go then sitting back down .

 

Couldnt bring myself to leave at the Haifa game and got an earful for being late.

Earful from who?

This might upset a few people but I noticed today that there were far fewer people heading for the exits at 80mins. I reckon it's because the usual suspects didn't bother their arse today. Perhaps an indication of who the real supporters are.

 

Thought the atmosphere was a wee bit better today aswell!

 

"We are the people"

Had a girl behind me today raging her bus was late. Got into her seat 5 minutes in. Fair enough I thought, i'd be pissed too.

But she spent a good half hour or so on the phone during the first half chatting to her mate, where she was bitching about the bus, and then left after approx 80 mins.

If you can't be arsed to watch the full 90 minutes anyway why does it matter if her bus was a bit late?

Thought Hutton played well today although the Pars rarely threatened. Got forward well and put in some good crosses. Only mistake I remember was a poorly placed header.

Justifying his inclusion ahead of PB imo.

I'm definitely gonna be taking Preston, that's not a tip to anyone (although its hardly genius) so don't blame me if you put them on and it goes tits up.

Glad I put this disclaimer in.

Dont eat yellow snow.

Cheers Dave, you too Barry.

Some of your selections look tempting Gribz.

I'm definitely gonna be taking Preston, that's not a tip to anyone (although its hardly genius) so don't blame me if you put them on and it goes tits up. But 6/5 on bet365 looks good v bottom placed Southend who played midweek (allbeit a fantastic result).

I'm undecided about Hibs 10/11 at home to ICT. Not had a proper look yet so not sure of anymore.

Anyone got any good tips for this weekend?

Something that I don't think has been mentioned yet, but Hutton is far better in the air than PB.

Missed the Molde game but listening on the radio it seemed they were aware of this, because the commentary consistently talked of high balls being put in on Bardsley and him really struggling.

Hutton.

 

Bardsley is leaving in January and the team needs some sort of consistency in the performances and the best way to do that is stick to the same squad choices as much as possible.

as yourself, Barry and a few others have pointed out, this is the crux of the matter. PB may or may not be better (hardly, if at all imo), but if he is its negligible so the long term benefit to Rangers is playing Hutton and getting him more experience as that is the only way he will improve.

 

Hutton goals this season ..0

 

Bardsley..1

I'm disappointed, I actually thought you'd have more sense than to compare players according to one free kick scored.

Check the posts prior to mine, I'm not the only one not convinced by Bardsley.

I'm with you on this one...I think Bardsley's a far better prospect at right back for us than Hutton.

Its not even up for debate that that is just factually incorrect. Bardsley is absolutely no sort of prospect as he will never be a Rangers player. He's just here for a few months to develop him for Man U. If he ever shows he's good enough for them.

Makes no sense to halt Hutton's development. And Bardsley has yet to show he is any better than Hutton tbh.

Well, we got two very dubious penalty decisions vs Maccabi Haifa.

Aye so we're all square now.

And it was one dubious pen.

Scott Durie,John Fleck, Alex Cooper- Any relation to the old Rangers players?

Scott is Gordon Durie's son. John is Fleck's nephew I beleive. Cooper I dont think so. Ibeleive he's a Ross County player.

Another good result:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=426551&CPID=219&clid=&lid=554&title=Young+Scots+impress+again

8 Bears in the starting line up this time.