Frankie

Like other less PC songs before it, the offensive version of BBs will die out. The so called offending word in the song can be debated till we're blue in the face but as long as UEFA (and enemies closer to home) take an interest we cannot sing that song. That will be made clear to anyone who does try and sing it either via fan self-policing along with further official guidance. I'm hoping that the situation will be clarified regarding singing different versions of the song sooner rather than later.

It's a fair post and one which most Rangers fans probably agree with. Also to be fair Danny, several such posts have appeared on FF without them being removed. FF may be less PC than other forums but there are many people who are trying to get the Billy Boys ban message across. What is needed, as Cammy touched on, is more leadership and clarification from Rangers. I can assure everyone that will be forthcoming.

No, he still has 2-3 years left on his contract. I don't mind pulling out if the difference is £0.5million but for the sake of an extra £200K I'd be disappointed. I actually know someone in the Swiss media and he says this guy is highly rated and Nike want to use him as a brand leader over the next few years. Hence Wein's reluctance to move him on. He's worth a lot of money commercially and their main sponsor pulls out at the end of their season.

I think they do that usually.

If I couldn't get to Ibrox, then £15 a month does seem reasonable enough if it includes RTV as well.

Agree with that Mike. Webster is unlikely though because of his contract situation.

Sebo is still the most likely target...

Yep, it's about time an MP or 2 stood up for the fans...

Sorry guys, there's nothing wrong with what cammy is saying... Rangers do have Protestant links and although not everyone needs to appreciate that there's nothing wrong with other parts of the support being proud of that assocation. As for ignoring what is said in the press - well the club have being doing that for too many years now and this is why certain media figures see us and our club as an easy target now. So ignorance simply isn't an option.

joanne@rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk

Exactly. The problem is getting the message to the rather large apathetic majority. However, I know for a fact the RST are working very hard on that along with the club. Change won't happen overnight but the wheels are turning.

BEGINS There has been some speculation as to the reasons behind the public safety concerns that led to the decision of Greater Manchester Police not to provide policing services at the match between Bolton Wanderers and Glasgow Rangers On Tuesday 25 July. The agreed ticket allocation for Glasgow Rangers was 5,000. However, the club subsequently provided information that Bolton Wanderers should expect 12,000 fans to turn up for this event. A review of intelligence surrounding the event indicated that these numbers may be further swelled by holidaymakers from the Glasgow region attending Bolton on the day from Blackpool. Information provided by Glasgow Rangers indicated that in excess of 120 coach parties would be attending, which were not capable of being received at the Reebok stadium. A normal full Premiership fixture would attract no more than 17 coaches. Given the uncertainty around accurate numbers of supporters attending, and the probability of many thousands of fans without tickets descending upon Bolton, it was not possible to further plan for this event within the margins of public safety that we normally employ. Greater Manchester Police is highly experienced in policing football, having some of the largest teams in the country and the world based here, and our expertise in policing such events safely is outstanding. It is in this context therefore that this decision not to provide policing services was made. ENDS Jackson is looking rather silly now.

Perhaps, but then that would make the GMP look daft or to blame for what's happened... The art of spin...

But they have said that. It's on the BBC website and in other papers.

The Bolton game was actually arranged fairly late on. At that point the GMP gave permission based on no more 5000 travelling bears. That number, because of the good weather, was expected to increase and the GMP (due to increased annual leave) didn't have the numbers to cope with the increase. That's the reason and nothing else should be read into it - especially what Jackson suggested.

try different variations of that address @dailyrecord.co.uk.... k.jackson keith_jackson K_Jackson keithjackson etc etc

No it isn't. The Record suggested the game was called off because of the Rangers fans 'threat' This article, correctly, says it's because of resources.

I think it's keith.jackson@dailyrecord.co.uk

Certainly not from the Rangers support Lynds...

http://www.rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk/news/2006/190706.html 19 July 2006 Trust Expresses Outrage at Record and Mirror 'Smear' Following the cancellation of the Bolton vs Rangers game scheduled for Tuesday 25 July on the advice of Greater Manchester Police, the Rangers Supporters' Trust strongly deplores today's inaccurate, sensationalist and deliberately provocative articles by Keith Jackson of the Daily Record and his counterpart in the Daily Mirror. Unlike professional, responsible journalists at the Daily Express and Evening Times who contacted both Greater Manchester Police and the Trust before going to print, The Record and The Mirror instead demonstrate classic traits of gutter journalism. Ignoring the truth reported by the BBC and all other media outlets including The Sun; i.e. there are inadequate police numbers available to police the game - these newspapers instead chose to print unfounded propaganda in a futile attempt to smear the Rangers support. They deliberately ignored the exemplary behaviour of Rangers fans at fixtures in Fulham, Ipswich, Bradford, Belfast and as recently as 1 May this year, when 13,000 Rangers fans went to a Bank Holiday game in Derby and were praised by Derbyshire Constabulary for their good behaviour. Instead, Keith Jackson referred to a game at Goodison Park more than 8 years ago where local hooligans rather than Rangers fans caused disorder. This is simply not acceptable. We are therefore calling for a public apology to be made to the Rangers support by the journalists responsible. Should this not be forthcoming, the Trust will be asking Rangers Football Club to take the issue up with the publications responsible and we will independently pursue this matter via the Press Complaints Commission. The Trust will also give serious consideration to asking members to conduct a commercial boycott of these publications. We also call on Bolton Wanderers FC to refund those Rangers fans now out of pocket due to their very late notice of this cancellation, given that they recently guaranteed the fixture would go ahead. The Trust warmly welcomes the move by Rangers FC to refund the money for tickets bought by fans.

MGN - Mirror Group Newpapers

I've been in contact with the GMP Press Office this morning and at no point was the game cancelled because of a so-called 'threat' from bears. Rangers fans have a recent flawless record in England and apart from one or two idiots in Spain recently, the same goes for our record abroad. For the Daily Record to write so negatively about us in this regard really is shameful and most disappointing. Recently we had a UEFA judgement imposed upon us for certain reasons. At the time I said for the Rangers fans to be able to change most effectively we'd need the help of other groups. Articles such as this isolate the Rangers support even further and you have to wonder what Jackson and his rag hope to achieve with this misinformation.

It's happened already. MGN going with us being a 'threat' this morning. Disgraceful.

Sebo has handed in a transfer request so there is more chance of this deal happening. However, according to the Swiss media Wein are holding out for more cash because Nike have signed up Sebo and Wein expect the player to be worth a lot commercially. Wein's chief investor/sponsor is also leaving at the end of this season so they are struggling financially and are holding out for more cash.

Don't think he's even on half that.