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Programme cover a disgrace IMO. Should have been J Hubbard MBE featured, played for both clubs, regular at Ibrox to his last. True Rangers and Ibrox Legend but its all about SG nowadays.

I had to look up "concomitant" and I suspect the originator did as well (right click - synonyms) after he wrote associated. It really is embarrassing, they could have at least waited until JT was semi-sober before letting him near the send button - I can just see him - Furrowed brow, squinting through those daft retro specs and thumping away on his keyboard like Vincent Price on a church organ.

.......Serfs actually

Lodge 54 is available for bookings for both sporting and cultural events and I may even offer a Scottish cup discount, it also goes without saying that Lodge 54 is long overdue a name change Champagne reception comes as standard but guest are encouraged to bring their own firewood.

Not allowed to move nowadays unless there are safety concerns, Fraserburgh ground has safety cert so all the talk of venue change was moot, they had to play the game there. Another example of Scottish football authorities ideas for improving the domestic product - don't allow small clubs to switch their home games to bigger ground so more people can go and watch football and club gets financial boost. If it wasn't Scotland you wouldn't believe the contrary logic

Broch working hard to get the capacity up to nearer the 2K mark, will depend on Old Bill and Peelers how close they get. FS has spare bedrooms and an overstocked drinks cabinet, but he is so excited about this game he can hardly think straight just now so has asked me to arrange the party and sleepovers at his gaff. Regular Gernetters just drop me a PM and I'll forward you his address and get you booked in Sash Bash and sausage rolls after game, bed-time and lights out 22:30

no need to apologise, what you say is spot on, but I would add that discrimination on the grounds of cost is still discrimination. I have no doubt that those who opposed abolition of slavery did so on the grounds of costs rather than ethics. where there's a will there's a way.

[/img] Tomorrow Gordon Reid will compete in the wheelchair masters final in Loughborough, Gordon is a Wimbledon champion, Olympic medal winner and also a loyal Rangers fan and I’m sure we all wish him good luck on Sunday. I’ve no idea if Gordon has an ST at Ibrox or indeed how many time his training and competition schedule allows him to see his team, but I will assume that at this stage in his career it would be difficult for him to find the time to regularly attend Ibrox. And perhaps that’s not a bad thing. For I believe the current waiting list for wheelchair accessible ST’s at Rangers runs into the hundreds! There is of course a long standing and respected member of this forum who can provide more accurate figures and is far more qualified than me to comment on this and perhaps even attempt to calculate how long in terms of years Gordon Reid would have to wait for an ST if he were to apply today. Recently we have seen the rainbow laces and show racism the red card promotions at Ibrox and indeed in grounds throughout the land, worthy causes some may say, however I would ask the question do these prejudices and discriminations actually exist to any significant degree in 2017? Does a black footballer raise even a curious eyebrow these days? Of course not. Are RC players welcome at Ibrox? And are those that are, treated any differently from anyone else? Again, we all know that this has not been an issue for decades. Homosexuals in Scotland have exactly the same rights as everyone else, they are proportionately overrepresented in the MSM, Politics and the Arts and are generally accepted in all walks of life as no different from anyone else and I’m sure a gay Rangers player would be judged on his playing performance alone. I could go on, but my point here is we seem to be pandering to moral crusades railing against discriminations, that, as far as I can see don’t really exist. Whilst at the same time there is real, tangible discrimination going on under our noses that gets no attention, high profile campaigns or celebrity endorsement. Let’s be honest, banging the drum for more wheelchair accessible place at football isn’t cool or hip it won’t get you on TV or invited to glitzy charity balls but wearing a rainbow badge and exaggerating a discriminatory perception probably will. The solution to this is in the clubs own hands all they have to do is create more spaces, simple, it may be technically challenging and indeed expensive but it must be done, and done sooner rather than later, come on Rangers FC if you are going to endorse make-believe discrimination, do the decent thing and address the real ones as well.

Haw, Forlanssister, next Linfield game we can go to Niall's restaurant "fáilte" for our supper, its on the Falls Rd. Yum Yum. Discount for Bears if he signs?

Well written and considered article Frankie and looking at C1872 as an outsider a lot of what you say makes sense and makes one wonder how many of the points you highlight were not addressed as default at conception. As I said, I am an outsider (not a member of C1872) and will therefor not delve into the current or past dispute's around the formation and governance of the collective and neither will I become embroiled in the personal attributes of C1872 board members (past or present) I do not know them and have had no personal exposure to them so I'm unqualified to comment and not entitled to do so. I will add to the debate though and address my own situation as a non member. On the face of things I would be an ideal membership target for the organisation, ST holder, Interested in the Club and its affairs both on and off the park and most importantly I am fortunately in a financial position to contribute. But I have never considered becoming a member, not for a second - I remember getting one of the first leaflets promoting the venture, It was at NARSA last year and was passed to me by a long term member of this forum, I dismissed it instantly. Did I think it was doomed to fail? well I certainly had doubts on any long term viability. Did I mistrust some of the characters involved in the formation? perhaps, but I also thought they would be found out and eventually side lined. Did I find the way 1 group managed to effectively undermine another in the jostle for position pre C1872 somewhat unethical? Yup. Did I doubt the collectives claim of independence? only a fool would not. I could go on, but in fact none of the above are the reason I have declined joining, for me I simply do not agree that fan ownership would be of material benefit to either the club or the members, as you alluded to when we were at our lowest ebb the RST and RF were attractive concepts, fans were desperate to help and wanted to ensure the club was in safe hands for future generations, the 2 collectives were conduits for fan frustration and uptake was brisk. It was always inevitable that stability would bring security and that fans collective uptake would wane. Rangers fans are notoriously fickle, we passionately love our club and perhaps this is why we hardly ever seem to agree on anything, each and every one of us have opinions how Rangers should be governed and I could never envisage a harmonious fan base, best answer wins with us, but alas there always seems to be a thousand best answers. Additionally, and perhaps its just because I'm an old fashioned capitalist, I cannot reconcile myself with the concept of buying shares and not owning them (at least RSC share could be personally redeemed) Nevertheless I fully agree with the sentiment that anyone willing to give up there own time and volunteer (without ulterior motive) for roles within C1872 deserve our respect and the support of the membership, sticking ones head above the parapet and becoming a board member of the club was always going to come with significant risk and I wish the genuine folks involved in the club all the very best and hope they can go forward prove folk like me wrong.

Looks good, didn't realise the space was so deep and narrow so I suspect it must have been quite a challenge to optimise the area available whilst fulfilling all the requirements of the remit. Well done to all concerned.

Tanner hosting NARSA this year

I have no doubt my source is well connected to the family, on his mobile he showed me umpteen pics of Billy and messages from the laddies dad. He told me the issue was particularly concerning as the advice from his mentor to forget about schooling (and yes he is a first team member and a senior on at that) was unsettling the kid and compromising his academic results. Now guys I'm only reporting what I've been told , I have no axe to grind either way in this debate, and there is always 2 sides to every tale. and it could very well be the case that his family are making something out of a throwaway remark or even Billy is just deflecting from disappointing exam results. Personally I have no doubt that our club have given him the best opportunity to develop and coaching possible and hope he goes on to fulfil his potential.

I have from a close friend of the family, that their motivation and aspirations for Billy at this stage in his career as based purely on Development. Nothing to do with money......yet. Also told me that whilst the laddie comes from good stock, the family are most upset at some of the advice his 1st team mentor has been giving him "never mind school and exams, concentrate on football" type of thing. To such a degree they felt strongly enough to call a meeting and bring it to the attention of the management team at Auchenhowie. Maybe a minor issue, but any negatives come into play when the kid and his family are making decisions on Billy's future.

I'd rather have Deputy Dawg than Musky

I had a parcel delivered to me from Belfast just last week, it took 8 weeks and 1 day to make the journey unfortunately it was empty

desperately hope you are right Boabie but why were all the charges dropped on everyone bar Whyte? I believe some quite critical errors were made by the authorities when collecting the evidence.

oh! the S.793 notice, right that's all clear now thanks for that think I'll stick to colouring-in books and watching tipping point

Thanks for attempting to address some of my points FS alas some of your answers are just more questions and others are "who knows" and perhaps,s. anyway seems the resolution always appears to be around some corner or other. but to get back on point, are you saying the people who formulated the JV deal, who you and I both know were not working in the best interests of the company they were representing at that time - are going to be found guilty and the contract can then be terminated - given that other criminal charges were dropped how long will the civil case drag on and then how long could SD appeals and counter cases take? oh BTW had a look at the Rangers Megastore online today - what a load of tat, cheap transfer printed generic fodder - hope none of the boycotters think they are martyrs cos they are denying themselves very little of worth.

less assume you are correct in that optimism - then, do you think club 1872 will elect to support resolution 11 ?

Cheers DB but the pessimist in me is say that if "everything was safe and sound finance-wise last season" and they weren't pushing it - then does that mean everything isn't safe and sound now? for me, in my simplified world - the only circumstances the board would have to push it would be if they had other investors lined up to take the options and we are looking at significant here isn't the resolution to release 80M ordinary shares which would be a 50% dilution to any non participant.

ok, including strips everything currently for sale online and in the shops is stock to go - when its gone its gone and nothing can be manufactured to replace. that would be ok if the club had leave to release a license to someone other than RR which it doesn't - stalemate. I honestly didn't realise that RR/SD JV had stopped producing merchandise, every days a school day

That's what I hoped would happen - however a quick visit to the rangers megastore will tell another story

that's interesting Darthter, new one on me must confess. so you are saying that under the terms of the contract Rangers Retail can sell RFC branded goods but cannot produce RFC branded goods. Can you tell me where you sourced this please I would be interested to research further.

sorry that's above my heid FS, can you elaborate please?