A Horse With No Name

Cloud cuckoo land! At £400,000 pcm these cunts will never have to work again! As for them accepting a firm offer - ffs they said they'd accept Millars CONTIONAL OFFER today if it was the only one on offer, yet they won't accept the best offer on the table today! THESE CUNTS ARE TAKING THE PISS - AS WELL AS PLENTY SWAG, liquidation is inevitable now as all these thieves are doing is grabbbing e-v-e-r-y possible penny out of us!! Maybe it's time for us to be realistic and walk away - enough is enough and I'm almost at the point of not giving a rats ass!!

That's hardly news! There is only two possible outcomes and one possible PB, I've known that all along and it will happen one way or the other, let's be honest Frankie the two possible outcomes are either TBK's get PB or we're down the pan! If we're down the pan why let these cunts in D&P work their ticket any longer! They are criminals in the moral sense of the word! CROOKS! Tannochbear has now aided and abetted them by his rumour as we should be kicking their door in not looking for explanations of why he took the cunt out of us, fellow rangers supporters! There was a crooked man (Whyte) who had a crooked house (D&P) and they all stole together, in a crooked little game...

In other words it wasn't an exclusive at all - just guesswork based on the fact D and P said it had to be sorted on Monday! Very poor day for the forum if that's the best you can do!

I know for a fact TBK's will be named as PB tomorrow morning! There you go more garbage! Tbh Frankie that is the sort of guff they regularly pull on RM! Forums such as this have a great reputation because they take aa careful approach to 'exclusives' I suggest you start putting a disclaimer on anything like this in future. Something like THIS IS MORE THAN LIKELY A PILE OF PISS with flashing lights, above the thread title! Btw where is Tannochbear this afternoon? :-)

Last night I still didn't sleep much, so I guess I didn't really believe it! Have we heard from Tannochbear or has he joined Whyte in Monaco? He must feel like a right fool - I suspect he got the info from a Taig pal on broadcasting - was it Chris McLaughlinn that pulled that one Tannoch?

Í take it you're speaking for juancornetto! :-) Those Ally McCoist words might just end up as byelines in Newspapers at the buttom of fish supper wrappings! In my opinion they amount giving the Rangers haters a BLANK CHEQUE! Aye in other words he's saying WE'RE NOT WALINNG AWAY PLEASE DON'T HIT US! Duff and Phelps have taken that on board as now they're gonna try and stretch their huge salaries to yet another week - tbh I'm fast losing patience - whether I give my life savings or not is in the balance as I need to make plans for the summer very soon, if they haven't sorted it out by first thing wednesday my money won't be there for the shares issue - I do do walking away they're not taking the cunt out of me much longer!

All that terminology can be very misleading - the crux of the matter was that Celtic weren't Liquidated and therefore no one opposed a name change, or the change of aims of that club, so that analogy cuts no ice. There are some who put forward the idea of 'Buying' our history back after insolvency but anyone who knows the bitterness of the Rangers haters will know that route would've been blocked by the 'moral outrage'. Of course that morality was missing when Celtic KNOWINGLY DEFRAUDED THE TAXMAN* for millions by lying about gate receipts.! Their fans thought it highly amusing that they got away with that (until they were skint and asked the question "what about all those huge crowds?". Their sense of humour took a dive at that point! :-) Hopefully the threat of 1 Liquidated, will start to wane now, but we still have the outrageous possibility that on the 30th of this month these Rangers haters will try and chip away at our history! If they try that on we will need to know which clubs were pushing for it (along with the Taigs) and take the obvious sanctions against them! If they hide behind a wall of secrecy we should boycott the whole lot of them til they see sense! As I said I don't mind being punished but they can't mess with our history, and make our memories false - THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE! Tonight, though I shall sleep a little easier! Well done Paul Murray! *if anyone doubts that look back to the outrage the Kelly's had to shelter from (and Mars bars etc) their fans the day after the Kelly's put it out that they had put in THEIR OWN MONEY!

Maybe take out the acoustic myself "WE'VE been through the desert on a horse with no name..". Now, although we're not out of the (desert) yet, but we're in with a fighting chance!

Great news! Now, is the time to put all that ill feeling towards those that backed TBK's to bed. Everyone must make an effort to help get us off our knees, whether that's putting in cash to the shares issue or facing up to our many enemies. First up we have to let those attending and voting in that meeting on the 30th know that if they try to mess with our history THEIR CLUBS and SCOTTISH FOOTBALLL WILL SUFFER in the form of boycotts etc! They've been kicking us we were down - now let's get into those bastards! It was always gonna be the fan based consortium that won - so much time wasted - let's get behind them now! Well done Paul Murray and your backers!

Rangers Rovers 2012 won't be my team! Give this newco some thought, there will be no more RFC badges, no pictures of ex players inside the stadium (if this newco still own it - Celtic could buy it and use it for U21 matches), the SFA maybe not even give you permission to use the colour blue, christ it's a depressing scenario! Only a matter of time before Celtic surpassed our trophy haul is another... Also picture yourself in discussions with Tims.. Or even Sheepshaggers... Christ Partick Thistle will be a more successful club... It's sad some of you won't face these harsh truths!

There (as expected) is a lot of bravado and beating of the chests - but within a short space of time the reality will set in. If either 1 or 2 happens for me 1 will be akin to a FATAL heart attack while 2 will be getting HIV, with death taking longer... The one person (not Ally with his SFA pleading) that has shown the right attitude is Alex McLeish - when asked about his attitude re trophies being removed said I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM TAKE MY MEDALS OFF ME! This silly attitude of Ally McCoists (We Don't Do Walking Away) and those of you that echo it are just giving the people that hate Rangers the green light to get tore in! Where is the deterrent to those that vote on April 30th to be fair? What these people are pushing for is simple. They have two outcomes in mind: First to try and get Rangers liquidated, second to take away our titles. These people hope that Rangers fans will return to subsidising scottish football after either 1 or 2, they hope we don't do walking away as they need our money! Rangers are the most successful club team in the world - destroying that by liquidation or removing trophies at their leisure destroys our soul! It will destroy scottish football too... The more you stick to this woeful (and untruthful) idea of not walking away the more you invite damage on the club, also for those being abusive I really do fear for you because if either 1 or 2 happens (maybe even both) you are in for a rude awakening because you'll find out then the real enemy wasn't me, I naturally hope neither of these happens, but if it lessens the worry - just keep abusing me!

What I'm saying here is reality, whether you like it or not Rangers Rovers 2012 will drop support by huge margins in the case of 1 and in the case of 2 the support will gradually dwindle and we'll have same levels of support relative to Dundee v Dundee Utd - we'll eventually fall by the wayside like Dundee have in that city!! Now, you can call that hanky waving if you like, but should either 1 or 2 happen time will prove me right! If they don't happen I'll continue supporting MY TEAM and I don't need permission from you for that! As Morgan F said in The Shawshank Redemption THERE'S A HARSH TRUTH TO BE FACED - by ignoring that harsh truth YOU make it more likely.

Absolutely 100% spot on - others are kidding themselves on, they'll be surprised how easy it'll be to walk away from a club that ISN'T RANGERS! Scottish football as a competitive sport will be over. FINNITO.

By the way if they find us guilty of using double contracts and decide to relegate us to the 3rd Division I would continue supporting Rangers - I have no problem with getting punished for the way we let David Murray run us, but they mess with memories then as far as I'm concerned it's GAME OVER for scottish football!

1. Liquidation. Will you support a newco? My answer is that having given the matter a great deal of thought DIFINIITELY NO! All the years I've followed Rangers would be like the memory of my Mother and Father and people I've cared for in the past DEAD! It puts into question what is the point in supporting a club that isn't everlasting, because whether we give the issue much thought or not that's basically the rationale of our support! Now, it's always hard to gauge fans' opinion - my thoughts are that (forum wise especially) although around 75-80% say they will 'not walk away' most WILL WALK AWAY In my opinion them saying that is hugely bravado on their part as when they're faced with the cold facts that this newco will have no trophies and no history to sustain them through barren years they will simply stop coming! My thinking is that 'initially' they'll get around 10,000 at Ibrox with that number slowly falling over the years. Do you agree or disagree with that? 2. Taking away our trophies. Would you support Rangers (newco or not) if these cunts on the 30th of April take away any of our trophies? For me the answer is again DEFINITELY NO! My reasons are the same as for 1. Don't get me wrong I'll take a lot of comfort if Rangers survive but I won't continue to put money into something where the prizes and successes I've cherished can be taken away! Tbh, it is completely irrational for these Rangers hating cunts at the SFA/SPl to try to take these actions, but the hatred they have for us is such... Would it mean games the Dutch players played in were awarded too the opposition? Where do they stop with that nonsense? It's one thing doing it to Sion when a competition is underway but... For those of you who have answered yes to either of these ask yourselves a question: Rangers beat Celtic to win a trophy and you leave the ground smiling but at some point you must be thinking HAVE WE REALLY WON...:disgusted:

What's the betting when this is over those two will leave that firm and leave the country! I'm away to put my head down and crash - hopefully I'll get a text before returning to work, but I feel it's been their game all along to drag this out until the end of season ANOTHER COUPLE OF CAPITALIST CROOKS!

I'm not back to work until Monday so I've asked a Bear pal to text me when they make the announcement so will just lie in a darkened room until then - what's the betting these cunts are still making excuses! When this is over and we're down the pan we should use all our energies to get these cunts barred, tbh they better keep a very low profile because at some point in time they'll run into a Bear with a sore head! If they do their job I'm heading for a sunny beach with a handful of books and a few Stellas - never felt so knackered in all my life! I feeking hate Capitalism, scumbags the lot of them - if these Rangers haters think we're just gonna support a newco and continue feeding them all with our money they're out of their minds - no Rangers, no more money will I put their way! They've been well warned IFRANGERS FC GO DOWN THE PAN SO WILL SCOTTISH FOOTBALL!

Sorry, Craig talking at cross purposes there - i haven't a clue, like you said why is it necessary to appoint McElroy when it's just simple arithmetic... I'm away now for a cup of tea heads doing me in!

Exactly, if they've had talks with HMRC and they've said okay 10p in the pound surely, it's just a matter of paying of the smaller sums and then working up the Taxman... The other thing that smells is this ruling of the 'BTC' i just wonder if they're stalling with that in mind, but then maybe HMRC are stalling to see if there's a linkage between the preferred bidder and Whyte or to see if he's gonna get a backhander... God, this is fekking torture, i wouldn't be surprised if D&P are a couple of Tims just enjoying themselves!

I know but this is kinda a big one - it's a bit like Keanu Reeves (The Matrix) noticing a black cat on the stairwell...

What they led us to believe was that the preferred bidder had to then agree with the creditors and then a transfer of power could be completed and then Rangers exit Administration. If they're saying that's not the case and as you said that the Creditors listing is complete and (i add this on) they've all agreed 10p in the pound or whatever then surely as you say that's a done deal, no need to mess around just do the deal get in there and start to get things sorted. I must say my head is spinning with the amount of dummies these guys are throwing our way. Initially, when Paul Murray said it would be good if the preferred bidder was in place for the last old firm game and they then came out with saying "they'd try their best to have a transfer of power before the end of the season.." my thought was LIQUIDATION and the rest is flannel so that Rangers fans can come out and keep the club going to the end of the season, by which time we'd be toast and they'd've racked up one hell of a wage bill! If they haven't sorted this out by tomorrow and think it's game over... It reminds me of a ploy i used when i was a Support Worker. Big lad and i wanted to get him fitter, lose some weight etc etc healthier body healthier mind. I would tell him "let's just walk to the next bus stop" and then once we got there it was "we may as well walk to the next one".... This whole thing just stinks that's what my senses tell me. I actually thought the other day when i read of them saying "right guys we need this sorted, time is of the essense..." i thought hey the penny has dropped and maybe the Politicians having a word in their ear has done the trick... Hopefully by the time i've finished work tonight and got home and turn on the radio... but then maybe Sonny and Cher will come on AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!

Definitley true about this being an age where people are impatient. I mind seeing a film review thingy a wee while ago and the Producers and Directors of films were saying that if they didn't get the attention of the viewers within the first few minutes the film tends to flop, wonder how many good films have fallen by the wayside because of that. The thing that confuses me is that surely after the first 'round' when the bidders put in revised bids it would just be a matter of the paperwork involving shorts pieces for amendments? (ie same as offer of xth of March, with the exception of the following...) Same with Brian Kennedy, i'm sure the fella just wanted his bid aired in case they were about to make a decision for one of the ones wanting Liquidation, and it'd be a case of the bid will be delivered to your offices first thing tomorrow morn. Is that too simplistic? Surely they're not gonna read the entire offers again... Tick tock, tick tock...

I see on ceefax they're reminding bidders that the bids have to be unconditional. I seem to recall them saying a few weeks back that it was natural for the bidders to put conditions as part of their bids... So, have they moved the goalposts or is my imagination playing tricks?

I'd imagine (could be wrong...) it is about using the RFFF money to pay off the smaller bills. Can't imagine it'd be anything bigger.

That plus a few air bubbles Craig! ;-)