A question about Spence

[chilledbear 16]

People like Spence have a duty to be honest in their reporting, having snide digs and telling lies knowing it will stir up fans is asking for trouble,nobody should get hassled for doing their job correctly.

 

He's failed.

[Mountain Bear 0]

Can't say I have a great deal myself. That's not the point though - we need to disassociate ourselves from extremists. Otherwise the story becomes 'thug Rangers fans victimise brave journalist & wife' rather than 'BBC reporter spends two years winding up fans and finally gets a slap on wrist.'

 

Exactly. It's all very well playing to the Rangers gallery with our PR, but we need to remember that our broader perception matters too, especially to sponsors.

[Zappa 0]

Load of pish designed to make Jum appear to be the victim (not like our enemies to play the victim card, eh?) as well as designed to make our fans look like big bad bigots just like the shameful Magic the dug story which made it onto the front page of Scotland's biggest newspaper despite being a pile of crap story about a rabid dog owner who's a terrorist supporting plastic paddy scumbag.

[ian1964 10,430]

BBC Scotland is providing increased security for Jim Spence, a sports presenter, after he said he was threatened in the street while walking with his wife in Dundee.

 

Spence contacted police after the incident, which occurred after he had received a number of abusive tweets and e-mails following comments he made last week during a BBC radio show in which he described Rangers Football Club as “the old club” and “a club that died”.

 

A spokesman for BBC Scotland said: “We have procedures for employees when issues arise but do not comment on them.”

It is understood that the measures include putting a driver at Spence’s disposal and could include him being accompanied by what a BBC insider called “additional staffers” when on reporting duties for the corporation.

 

The spokesman added: “BBC Scotland deplores the abusive comments which have been directed at Jim Spence. He is an experienced and respected broadcaster and should not have to be subjected to such behaviour, whether online or in person. Jim continues to work for BBC Scotland’s sports team with our full support.”

 

A spokesman for Police Scotland said: “Tayside Division is aware of the matter, appropriate advice was given and we will discuss the matter further with the individual involved.”

 

Mr Spence used his Twitter account to thank police for their help following the incident. He wrote: “Thanks to @TaysidePolice for a reassuring call there after an incident earlier today. This is getting out of hand.”

 

He added: “Was out for a walk with my wife ... Abuse on twitter is one thing but when people start on you in the street with your wife that’s another entirely.”

A Rangers spokesman said: “Rangers fans have every right to complain in the correct manner to the BBC about their coverage of the club. However, the club does not condone any kind of threatening behaviour.”

Earlier this year the BBC’s Editorial Standards Committee upheld two complaints from Rangers’ fans about its occasional use of the terms of “old club” and “new club”.

 

Last week Rangers revealed that it had instructed lawyers to write to the BBC Trust about what it described as “this latest breach of BBC guidelines and BBC Radio Scotland’s apparent unwillingness to observe the Trust’s ruling”. The club said it would “also seek confirmation of what steps will be taken by the BBC, particularly in relation to the BBC Scotland’s journalists, to ensure these breaches stop”.

 

Spence’s comments are deemed controversial by some fans because referring to the “old club” implies the current Rangers Football Club is not a continuation of the club that can trace its history back to 1872 but was liquidated in 2012. The BBC apologised for the comments after it received more than 400 complaints.

Rangers Football Club was liquidated following a dispute with HMRC. Its business and assets, including Rangers FC, were bought by Sevco Scotland, to which the club’s Scottish Football Association membership was transferred, enabling Rangers to relaunch in Scottish football’s Third Division at the start of the season 2012–13.

 

Many Rangers fans refuse to view the current club as a “new club” since it implies that Rangers’ past victories and trophies should not be associated with it. They insist the current club is a continuation of the old one and as such entitled to count all is past successes and history.

[Bluedell 5,348]

No, the club should not be making any comment. It cannot be in the position of commenting every time an alleged Rangers fan does something wrong because:

- it has nothing to do with the club

- it would be issuing statements every hour

- there is no proof Rangers fans were involved

- commenting could encourage non-Rangers fans to carry out similar incidents

[26th of foot 5,842]

Jum sought succour from extremists in the NUJ and now he is a pawn in their perception of reality. Paul Holleran, Phil McStupidnames, Angela Hagerty, .....et al pushed through a motion at their last conference stating 32 journos had been threatened by Rangers supporters in the previous year, Jum is more gris to their mill. In fact, as soon as Jum brought the NUJ to his meeting with the bosses at BBC Scotland, it was predicted by more than a few that such an incident would occur and the police would become involved.

 

Jum et al want to be triumphalistic about Rangers, but do not want to accept the consequences.

[andy steel 0]

The club have rather gazumped me there, by issuing that curt but necessary statement.

 

/thread, I guess.

[54andcounting 0]

Who wrote this piss mate? Especially the bit at the end.

 

BBC Scotland is providing increased security for Jim Spence, a sports presenter, after he said he was threatened in the street while walking with his wife in Dundee.

 

Spence contacted police after the incident, which occurred after he had received a number of abusive tweets and e-mails following comments he made last week during a BBC radio show in which he described Rangers Football Club as “the old club” and “a club that died”.

 

A spokesman for BBC Scotland said: “We have procedures for employees when issues arise but do not comment on them.”

It is understood that the measures include putting a driver at Spence’s disposal and could include him being accompanied by what a BBC insider called “additional staffers” when on reporting duties for the corporation.

 

The spokesman added: “BBC Scotland deplores the abusive comments which have been directed at Jim Spence. He is an experienced and respected broadcaster and should not have to be subjected to such behaviour, whether online or in person. Jim continues to work for BBC Scotland’s sports team with our full support.”

 

A spokesman for Police Scotland said: “Tayside Division is aware of the matter, appropriate advice was given and we will discuss the matter further with the individual involved.”

 

Mr Spence used his Twitter account to thank police for their help following the incident. He wrote: “Thanks to @TaysidePolice for a reassuring call there after an incident earlier today. This is getting out of hand.”

 

He added: “Was out for a walk with my wife ... Abuse on twitter is one thing but when people start on you in the street with your wife that’s another entirely.”

A Rangers spokesman said: “Rangers fans have every right to complain in the correct manner to the BBC about their coverage of the club. However, the club does not condone any kind of threatening behaviour.”

Earlier this year the BBC’s Editorial Standards Committee upheld two complaints from Rangers’ fans about its occasional use of the terms of “old club” and “new club”.

 

Last week Rangers revealed that it had instructed lawyers to write to the BBC Trust about what it described as “this latest breach of BBC guidelines and BBC Radio Scotland’s apparent unwillingness to observe the Trust’s ruling”. The club said it would “also seek confirmation of what steps will be taken by the BBC, particularly in relation to the BBC Scotland’s journalists, to ensure these breaches stop”.

 

Spence’s comments are deemed controversial by some fans because referring to the “old club” implies the current Rangers Football Club is not a continuation of the club that can trace its history back to 1872 but was liquidated in 2012. The BBC apologised for the comments after it received more than 400 complaints.

Rangers Football Club was liquidated following a dispute with HMRC. Its business and assets, including Rangers FC, were bought by Sevco Scotland, to which the club’s Scottish Football Association membership was transferred, enabling Rangers to relaunch in Scottish football’s Third Division at the start of the season 2012–13.

 

Many Rangers fans refuse to view the current club as a “new club” since it implies that Rangers’ past victories and trophies should not be associated with it. They insist the current club is a continuation of the old one and as such entitled to count all is past successes and history.

 

MANY Rangers fans implies not all of them.

[andy steel 0]

I think the piece is kind of qualifying the people involved in the complaints from the fanbase as a whole, explaining why some have protested to the BBC.

 

Most important line in there is the 'BBC apologised' one, which the Beeb are trying to deny but which has become the accepted media version. We should have taken victory that and left it there, with a separate line of attack on the Pastor Niemoller comment which is so distasteful as to be scarcely believable.

[ian1964 10,430]

Sheep fans at Pacific Quay today,sad morons!