Dreaming of Europe

[buster. 4,812]

That's a chilling thought. And it's mainly Keltic's fault that Scotland's co-efficient was allowed to sink so low. We are going to have to raise it all by ourselves.

 

Club seeding in the draw is mainly down to individual club European performance in the previous 5 years. Obviously we only have the sparse points from the Malmo and Maribor ties in 2011/12 and the little that comes from the general Scottish club performance for the other 4 years.

 

We are 267th in the list

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2016.html

 

 

 

As for the Scottish co-eff., this effects where clubs enter competitions.

In 2012 we were 18th (mainly down to our UEFA Cup Final season)

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2012.html

 

Today we are 25th

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2016.html

 

Whether 18th or 25th the Scottish Cup winners of this season would be starting in the same round of qualifiers.

It's 13th to 17th place that would have entered into the 3rd round of qualifiers.

 

Those Scottish clubs who qualify via the league (Aberdeen and Hearts) will enter into the first qualifying round on the 30th of June.

 

Access list

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/access2016.html

Edited April 18, 2016 by buster.

[jhunter 0]

New contingency dates have been pencilled in.

 

 

 

 

Getting into Europe by winning the SC would mean summer qualifiers starting in the second round on July 14th.

We would need to go through 3 qualifiers to make the group stages and we'd almost certainly be unseeded in any draw.

 

so they can change dates in the interest of fairness when it sutis them?

 

disgusting.

[buster. 4,812]

so they can change dates in the interest of fairness when it sutis them?

 

disgusting.

 

No real choice but to change it.

 

You couldn't have a team play a SC Final on Saturday and a 2nd leg play-off Final the next day.

 

The difference in logic is that come the play-offs, the main fixture list is already completed.

 

 

What it does mean is that unless Hibs claw back 2nd spot that they'll be playing twice a week all the way up to the Final, whilst we will have a 3 week break. Very different problems but given the lightness of our squad, the break is surely better.

 

Last season Falkirk had the same break prior to the final they narrowly lost to ICT.

[MacK1950 2,251]

The break is too long a couple of bounce games is needed to keep match fitness.

[buster. 4,812]

The break is too long a couple of bounce games is needed to keep match fitness.

 

I'm confident MW&Co will come up with the best plan, whether that includes games or not.

 

He wasn't a big fan of pre-season friendlies.

[BlueMazza 0]

I think it will really help attract players, plus these loan deals with the top clubs down south could continue. As it stands we could be sending Dominic Ball (who i would LOVE to keep) & Zelalem back with 3 medals. Of course we don't want to solely rely on a loan deal but I would argue they've proved effective for us. Plus those who do go back to their club seem to still love us (Oduwa for example)

[BlueMazza 0]

so they can change dates in the interest of fairness when it sutis them?

 

disgusting.

 

It's realistic. You can't play a game two days in a row. It's not like they moved it a week. Hibs potentially still have 3 games in a week. Player safety has been paramount, the risk to injuries would be huge. Plus, these are big games, hardly a spectacle if one team can barely move their legs!

[buster. 4,812]

One consequence of the SC Final is that the close season or players summer holidays will be noteably shorter, more especially if we qualify for Europe.

 

That would be 3 weeks this side of the Final and if we were to get into Europe about a week on the other side (first competitive game would be 14th July compared to last summer 25th July). The latter isn't that relevant given we'd be starting earlier anyway with the League Cup group stages (first game 16th July) if we don't get into Europe.

 

A championship team is going to win the SC so this means that an extra top tier club will go into the League Cup group stages (ie. those not in Europe).

[buster. 4,812]

I think it will really help attract players, plus these loan deals with the top clubs down south could continue. As it stands we could be sending Dominic Ball (who i would LOVE to keep) & Zelalem back with 3 medals. Of course we don't want to solely rely on a loan deal but I would argue they've proved effective for us. Plus those who do go back to their club seem to still love us (Oduwa for example)

 

What will attract players more than European qualifiers in July is working under Mark Warburton (important that he stays).

 

Players who don't place value on this aren't the type of player we want.

[ian1964 10,460]

What will attract players more than European qualifiers in July is working under Mark Warburton (important that he stays).

 

Players who don't place value on this aren't the type of player we want.

 

Playing under MW at Ibrox is a big attraction,especially now that we are back in the top league,if we win the Scottish cup it adds to the attraction,MW is admired for his management skills and his way of playing football,who wouldn't want to play for his Rangers team?