RANGERRAB 3,259 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 We all know that this will never happen No we don't. Not if a proper investigation takes place. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,259 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Celtic accounts showed nearly a million pounds paid to Torbett while he was in jail serving his sentence. Why was never explained. How he was later able to wander back into a job over there was also never explained. The "good name of Celtic" was the ONLY thing they wanted protected. The abused kids simply didn't come into it. This needs investigated by the SFA. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) No we don't. Not if a proper investigation takes place. There is zero chance of trophies being removed for child abuse, even Penn State got all their's back. Edited April 10, 2017 by SteveC 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,259 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 There is zero chance of trophies being removed for child abuse, even Penn State got all their's back. After paying out a fortune they did 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 This needs investigated by the SFA. Of that there is no doubt - it's just a pity that the SFA is made up by PL and his puppets 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) After paying out a fortune they did Yes, I wrote that above but we were discussing trophy removal. On which note, given the amount of abuse up and down the country, where would the trophy removal end? Who would decide how many proven cases equalled how many trophies or would it be any one case and all trophies during the tenure of said paedophile at said club? Would different types of abuse necessitate different trophy decisions and so forth. It'd be unmanageable. Also this is Scotland in the 21st Century, and so the idea of Celtic FC being punished is more than hard to imagine. Edited April 10, 2017 by SteveC 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,247 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Wouldn't mind the Yahoos being taken to the cleaners and having to pay a few million ... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,259 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Wouldn't mind the Yahoos being taken to the cleaners and having to pay a few million ... If,after an investigation, Celtic were found to have tried to cover up this child abuse then at the very least they should be very heavily fined indeed. A precedent must be set. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabie 230 Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 "Celtic Boys' Club founder Jim Torbett yesterday was convicted of sex offences against three young players. A jury at Glasgow Sheriff Court found him guilty of acts of shameless indecency between 1968 and 1974. As the verdicts were read out at the end of a seven-day trial the wealthy 51-year-old businessman hung his head in the dock and occasionally stared at the jury. The jury, by a majority, found him guilty of indecent offences against Mr James McGrory, 44, Mr David Gordon, 38, and former Scotland footballer Alan Brazil, 39, between 1968 and 1974 when they were teenagers. Sheriff Margaret Gimblett, who was told that Torbett, of Beaconsfield Road, Kelvindale, Glasgow was a first offender, deferred sentence until November 27 for background and community reports and continued bail. The sheriff warned Torbett that although she was allowing bail he should not assume that when he returned for sentence he would ''retain his liberty''. The sheriff also told him he would now be placed on the register of sex offenders. Torbett, who lives in a #100,000 flat and who drives a Mercedes to his successful Trophy Centre business in Glasgow left court with friends refusing to comment. Two issues dominated the trial - the evidence of the three victims and whether Celtic and manager Jock Stein were involved in a cover-up going back over 20 years. Rumours had circulated for years about Torbett and young boys at the club - which acted as a nursery for Celtic and produced players such as Paul McStay, Charlie Nicholas, Tommy Burns. and current striker Mark Burchill. The alleged cover-up emerged during the evidence of Mr Hugh Birt, 61, the club's photographer who resigned as president of the Boys' Club in 1986. Mr Birt claimed that, after he became president in 1974, Celtic legend Jock Stein told him he had kicked Torbett out the door. He said the matter was all ''covered up'' by Celtic as to why Torbett was put out. Mr Birt said that when Torbett returned to the boys club a few years later as a fund raiser the allegations about him started up again. He claimed he took them to Mr Stein, and told Celtic vice chairman Kevin Kelly about them but nothing was ever done. Mr Birt said when he became president of the Celtic Boys' Club in 1974 the first thing Mr Stein said to him was to ''keep the image of Celtic clean''. The court heard the scandal came out into the open two years ago when Mr Gordon, a taxi driver, spoke to a newspaper. " http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12364258.Celtic_Boys_apos__Club_founder_guilty_of_shameless_indecency_Anger_over_allegations_suggesting_that_Jock_Stein_was_involved_in_20_year_cover_up/ 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,259 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Yes, I wrote that above but we were discussing trophy removal. On which note, given the amount of abuse up and down the country, where would the trophy removal end? Who would decide how many proven cases equalled how many trophies or would it be any one case and all trophies during the tenure of said paedophile at said club? Would different types of abuse necessitate different trophy decisions and so forth. It'd be unmanageable. Also this is Scotland in the 21st Century, and so the idea of Celtic FC being punished is more than hard to imagine. I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. It is not child abuse it is the attempts to cover it up we are talking about here. From comments I've read from individuals around at the time I'd say that looks quite a strong possibility in the Torbet case. Child abuse was unfortunately widespread before safety measures were put in place to at least try to reduce it & identify those involved. No organisation was safe from these people with perhaps the BBC & Savile now being the most well known case 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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