Gribz 743 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 I kind of agree... partly. Fergie would've been more adventurous, but he was always difficult to beat in the big games -- it was, like Mourinho, about not losing first. He always played defensive-type players in big games, like Park. However, I'm not sure a Fergie side could play that way against a Guardiola side -- Guardiola bested him several times in the CL, two finals if I recall correctly. What about the side that Fergie played to beat Arsenal? It had 8 defenders, including Brown, Rafael, Vidic, Fabio, Smalling, Evra and O'shea!? (It even had Gibson!) Messi, with the help of Xavi, Iniesta. But at least he competed. This is the premier league, fergie would go well after them. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I kind of agree... partly. Fergie would've been more adventurous, but he was always difficult to beat in the big games -- it was, like Mourinho, about not losing first. He always played defensive-type players in big games, like Park. However, I'm not sure a Fergie side could play that way against a Guardiola side -- Guardiola bested him several times in the CL, two finals if I recall correctly. What about the side that Fergie played to beat Arsenal? It had 8 defenders, including Brown, Rafael, Vidic, Fabio, Smalling, Evra and O'shea!? (It even had Gibson!) When you have Xavi, Iniesta and Messi in their pomp (all through the youth system *)......it must have made a managers life so much easier. * the three Barca players with most all-time appearences for the club (more than 2,000 matches between them). What made the Guardiola system (at Barca) so effective and difficult to defend against was the cutting edge that was and is Messi, often supplied by the other two aforementioned. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 The talk is about Jose trying to stop Man City, imagine Fergie doing that, he would be going after them full pelt. Shocking if its off due to weather, 170k a week and cant play in a chill. If it's off it'll be for the safety of the fans not because the players don't fancy playing in the cold. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,370 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 When you have Xavi, Iniesta and Messi in their pomp (all through the youth system *)......it must have made a managers life so much easier. * the three Barca players with most all-time appearences for the club (more than 2,000 matches between them). What made the Guardiola system (at Barca) so effective and difficult to defend against was the cutting edge that was and is Messi, often supplied by the other two aforementioned. It certainly helps to have those players, but the tactical nous and playing philosophy elevated them, like it's elevating Man City now. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,195 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 It certainly helps to have those players, but the tactical nous and playing philosophy elevated them, like it's elevating Man City now. Guardiola’s City this season are showing just how good a manager he is. I recall certain forum members last season slaying him for not being able to improve players.... those same forum members are very quiet now given city’s position and the form Sterling is in... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 Guardiola’s City this season are showing just how good a manager he is. I recall certain forum members last season slaying him for not being able to improve players.... those same forum members are very quiet now given city’s position and the form Sterling is in... Got to agree but I do hope they drop points over Dec but its unlikely, they have scraped the easy games. What about West Ham today though, I had a sly 30 bucks on them at 6/1 but gutted i didnt got for 1-0 at 15/1 which I thought. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,613 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 City have been my English side since I was a kid. Not that interested these days though - English football is just a circus. Half and half scarves, foreign owners and players and stadiums half full of tourists...eugh. Still hope they stuff that club from just outside Manchester though. Stuff yer Lou Macari, Matt Busby and Brian McClair. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Guardiola’s City this season are showing just how good a manager he is. I recall certain forum members last season slaying him for not being able to improve players.... those same forum members are very quiet now given city’s position and the form Sterling is in... Sterling had a terrific first season at Liverpool then dipped. Has he made him better? Funny how Guardiola only goes to tea who are absolutely loaded. He's a good manager but the wankfest over him is OTT. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,613 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I don't like Guardiola. With the players at his disposal at Barcelona, Bavaria Munich and City, he should be successful. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 When Guardiola win the league with the budget of a Stoke or Southampton, then he'll be the best manager in the world. More likely his next move will be to PSG and even more money to spend. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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