colinstein 294 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, the gunslinger said: Loan deals are pointless. you keep harping on about this......is it not just a contract ......any player can run it down with no sell on...what's the difference 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,195 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, the gunslinger said: Loan deals are pointless. They really aren’t 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buster. 4,808 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, ian1964 said: He and his agent(s) were never going to leave without squeezing as much money out of us as they can. Awful buy and we might consider him gone but the relatively lucrative contract still has a way to go. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,245 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 It is not about squeezing money but honoring the contract. People will obviously argue about it, but IMHO the management messed up his, Cardoso's and essentially Cummings' situation later on too, playing a rubbish system that time and again failed to work / yield results ... as well as players "equally" not up to scratch. Sometimes you wonder what people expect here. That for "the sake of the club (and the support)" people just chuck it and get out as quick as possible? That may work in Fantasy Football. If he wants to fight for his place so be it. As of now, he'd be the only other striker next to Morelos that we have ... and EL is a fortnight away. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, der Berliner said: It is not about squeezing money but honoring the contract. People will obviously argue about it, but IMHO the management messed up his, Cardoso's and essentially Cummings' situation later on too, playing a rubbish system that time and again failed to work / yield results ... as well as players "equally" not up to scratch. Sometimes you wonder what people expect here. That for "the sake of the club (and the support)" people just chuck it and get out as quick as possible? That may work in Fantasy Football. If he wants to fight for his place so be it. As of now, he'd be the only other striker next to Morelos that we have ... and EL is a fortnight away. From a supporters POV, it's squeezing money out of a club you aren't giving anything back in return, especially when we get to pay-off time. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,245 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, buster. said: From a supporters POV, it's squeezing money out of a club you aren't giving anything back in return, especially when we get to pay-off time. ... doesn't that assume that are actually been given the chance to give anything back? Herrera, Cardoso and Cummings more often than not were denied that chance ... and when given, where actually thrown in at the deep end and thus to the wolves. IMHO, it simply is more complex than just pointing at the players. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, der Berliner said: ... doesn't that assume that are actually been given the chance to give anything back? Herrera, Cardoso and Cummings more often than not were denied that chance ... and when given, where actually thrown in at the deep end and thus to the wolves. IMHO, it simply is more complex than just pointing at the players. Yes, you're right but it's generally how fans will see things. Herrera and Cardoso were basically a consequence of what was termed by AJ as 'institutional failure'. This is still costing the club a lot of money every week. Cummings couldn't get any momentum. He didn't really fit into the way we played so tbh you have to ask questions about why we signed him. Not such a huge deal given it was a 6 month loan. Edited June 30, 2018 by buster. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 maybe the boy doesn't want to sign permanently to a terrible league, a loan was only way to get a player of his qualities in. Would imagine we also dont want to spent 3m without having a look first. Smart business if you ask me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 The guy's quite right......why should he go anywhere else when he has good conditions here for another year ?......As long as he does his best at training , we've got nothing to complain about 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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