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12 minutes ago, Elisioth said:

SNP are hardly socialist, snp are capitalists which is shown with their support of the neo-liberal EU. They aren't interested in public ownership of services and more interested in economic growth just like the EU. The named person act is an example of how fascist they actually are.

You are correct Elisioth, SNP are pro capitalism, but it is not accurate to call them 'fascist'......unprincipled opportunists would be more a more apt description in my opinion.

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Just now, The Shed said:

You are correct Elisioth, SNP are pro capitalism, but it is not accurate to call them 'fascist'......unprincipled opportunists would be more a more apt description in my opinion.

Aye still but that named person act is hardcore totalitarianism which tends to stem from fascism.

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12 minutes ago, The Shed said:

You are correct Elisioth, SNP are pro capitalism, but it is not accurate to call them 'fascist'......unprincipled opportunists would be more a more apt description in my opinion.

Absolutely. They would sell their mothers if it advanced the cause of independence.

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4 minutes ago, Elisioth said:

Aye still but that named person act is hardcore totalitarianism which tends to stem from fascism.

It's not a particularly clever piece of legislation, and I am not denying that in certain circumstances  'Nationalism'  can lean in the direction of 'Fascism' , but that is not the case here. The danger in calling social democrats 'Fascist' is that you alienate whole sections who would be natural allies in any struggle with actual fascists. It happened in Germany in the thirties, and split the opposition to the Nazis. 

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44 minutes ago, Elisioth said:

SNP are hardly socialist

I know.  I was taking the Mick out of people who claim to be Socialist who vote for them.

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1 minute ago, The Shed said:

It's not a particularly clever piece of legislation, and I am not denying that in certain circumstances  'Nationalism'  can lean in the direction of 'Fascism' , but that is not the case here. The danger in calling social democrats 'Fascist' is that you alienate whole sections who would be natural allies in any struggle with actual fascists. It happened in Germany in the thirties, and split the opposition to the Nazis. 

Aye fair point I suppose but its still totalitarianism by a nationalist party, doesn't bode well or instil confidence in their agendas.

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1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

I know.  I was taking the Mick out of people who claim to be Socialist who vote for them.

Oh were you, great good for you, right over the top of my head lol

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Wings over scotland is pure facism.

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I am in agreement with 'Doc' , they would say and do anything to further the cause of an 'Independent' (sic) Scotland, and totalitarian tendencies they may have, but the Scottish Parliament hasn't been burnt down just yet. I am all for the protection of children, this SNP approach hasn't been well thought out, it does interfere with basic rights to privacy, but the point is, it can be challenged. The real issue is that the SNP have obviously persuaded large numbers of working class people, and sections of the middle class, that the problems they face are problems of Nationality, when in actual fact they are class issues, and are the same as those of working people in England.

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Good post, Shed.  Folk in Northern England aren't really any different from Scots, in terms of social issues and being ruled from London.  They are actually worse off because in some respects.