compo 6,152 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, stewarty said: Would be interesting what would happen if Morelos, or any other player for that matter, walked off when subjected to such abuse. Probably get suspended 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 1,876 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, Bluedell said: "If he can’t take the vitriol, he's in the wrong city." © Davie Provan. Indeed. But even Provan would find it harder to dismiss if there was a walk off. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 6,807 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just shows you what a racist backwater Scotland has turned into. Shocking the lack of support Alfredo has received from football and society out with the Rangers family. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) I'm sure it sounds incredibly woke to point out all this racism but anyone with half an ounce of honesty knows that there's probably very little actual racism involved in Scotland ... other than perhaps the nationalist hatred of the English. That doesn't mean there isn't a very real problem. What Morelos and many like him are suffering is the cold, bitter expression of sectarian bigotry and deep-rooted tribalism. He's being attacked at every turn but not because he's black. It's clearly and only because of his association with Rangers. If Morelos didn't play for Rangers he wouldn't be attracting these racist comments. If he wasn't black but was still Rangers star player then they'd be howling some other abuse at him. The people who shout racist abuse at football generally don't direct the same comments at their own black players ... any more than Rangers fans abused Jorg Albertz or Lorenzo Amoruso for being catholics. No, the problem here is two-fold. Firstly that too many people are so caught up in the hate-filled fabric of petty lives that they do things like this - anything like this - any excuse to vent their spleens at "the other side". Secondly, that there is a receptive public only too willing to perpetuate the situation by pretending this sort of thing is genuine racism, rather than just another example of the squalid nature of much of Scottish society. Ask yourself, for example, why something as patently corrupt as the SNP has prospered without a semblance of achievement. Edited February 18, 2020 by Bill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walterbear 557 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, Bill said: I'm sure it sounds incredibly woke to point out all this racism but anyone with half an ounce of honesty knows that there's probably very little actual racism involved in Scotland ... other than perhaps the nationalist hatred of the English. That doesn't mean there isn't a very real problem. What Morelos and many like him are suffering is the cold, bitter expression of sectarian bigotry and deep-rooted tribalism. He's being attacked at every turn but not because he's black. It's clearly and only because of his association with Rangers. If Morelos didn't play for Rangers he wouldn't be attracting these racist comments. If he wasn't black but was still Rangers star player then they'd be howling some other abuse at him. The people who shout racist abuse at football generally don't direct the same comments at their own black players ... any more than Rangers fans abused Jorg Albertz or Lorenzo Amoruso for being catholics. No, the problem here is two-fold. Firstly that too many people are so caught up in the hate-filled fabric of petty lives that they do things like this - anything like this - any excuse to vent their spleens at "the other side". Secondly, that there is a receptive public only too willing to perpetuate the situation by pretending this sort of thing is genuine racism, rather than just another example of the squalid nature of much of Scottish society. Ask yourself, for example, why something as patently corrupt as the SNP has prospered without a semblance of achievement. I would agree racism is not a big issue in Scotland Bill but if he is called a black B it is racism however it’s dressed up. It doesn’t matter if they don’t shout racist abuse at their own black players. They are using pejorative phrases and the first thing that enters their heads is the colour of the guys skin. If for whatever reason they start to dislike their own black players then these people will be capable of racism against those players. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Walterbear said: I would agree racism is not a big issue in Scotland Bill but if he is called a black B it is racism however it’s dressed up. It doesn’t matter if they don’t shout racist abuse at their own black players. They are using pejorative phrases and the first thing that enters their heads is the colour of the guys skin. If for whatever reason they start to dislike their own black players then these people will be capable of racism against those players. Like I said, very woke. However, you know as well as I do if Morelos wasn't black he would still be receiving abuse. The fact he is black is just a convenience for people who's primary objective is to abuse a top Rangers player. All the identitarian shite about race, gender or whatever doesn't deflect one iota from the core issue ... a divided society full of tribal hatred - stoked by bigots, enacted by morons. The more we prattle on about racism, the more we perpetuate the sad little myths in this sad little country. Edited February 18, 2020 by Bill 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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