OFFICIAL Rangers appoint Russell Martin as head coach

[Gazza_8 267]

22 minutes ago, Ready1314 said:

Keep on defending the guy , we are winning nothing again if hes still at the club and captain of the side , no matter who the manager is.

Did you knock back Real Madrid before they appointed Alonso? 

 

You talk a very good game.

[Rousseau 12,142]

I think it's rather simplistic to put all our troubles onto Tavernier. I think it's more symbolic than anything literal. 

 

He has flaws but I still think the positives outweigh them, for now. 

 

He'll stick around, he'll remain captain - I think stripping him would create more issues - but he won't necessarily play every game. 

[Scott7 6,951]

23 minutes ago, CammyF said:

See when John Greig was Rangers captain during Celtics 9-in-a-row, were we clueless keeping him?

If Tav had been captain then Rangers might not even have managed second place. A lot of their niar were close competitions. No seventeen points gaps then. 

[L72 478]

Anyone that doesn't see a problem in Tav continuing as Captain, is blind.

 

And I include Russell Martin in that.

 

Symbolic of shit the bed, bottle Rangers. A beacon of failure.

 

Shouldn't be starting this new era, with that massive chip on our shoulder.

 

Completely refresh it, make Raskin captain, and put Tavernier on the bench, worrying about alienating players when we effectively want a rebuild in which most of the players will change anyway.

 

 

Some fans aren't ruthless enough, far too much sentiment.

[Devil's advocaat 1,948]

1 hour ago, L72 said:

Anyone that doesn't see a problem in Tav continuing as Captain, is blind.

 

And I include Russell Martin in that.

 

Symbolic of shit the bed, bottle Rangers. A beacon of failure.

 

Shouldn't be starting this new era, with that massive chip on our shoulder.

 

Completely refresh it, make Raskin captain, and put Tavernier on the bench, worrying about alienating players when we effectively want a rebuild in which most of the players will change anyway.

 

 

Some fans aren't ruthless enough, far too much sentiment.

I'd quite happily see him play much fewer games, and a better leader as captain too.

 

My point is, I wouldn't expect a new head coach to air that dirty washing in public, before he's even met, never mind assessed, the playing squad 

[CammyF 9,655]

3 hours ago, Scott7 said:

If Tav had been captain then Rangers might not even have managed second place. A lot of their niar were close competitions. No seventeen points gaps then. 

Serial losers all the same, if you go by todays fans assessment on this and previous squads - if you're not first and all that.

Edited 2 hours ago by CammyF

[CammyF 9,655]

2 hours ago, L72 said:

Anyone that doesn't see a problem in Tav continuing as Captain, is blind.

 

And I include Russell Martin in that.

 

Symbolic of shit the bed, bottle Rangers. A beacon of failure.

 

Shouldn't be starting this new era, with that massive chip on our shoulder.

 

Completely refresh it, make Raskin captain, and put Tavernier on the bench, worrying about alienating players when we effectively want a rebuild in which most of the players will change anyway.

 

 

Some fans aren't ruthless enough, far too much sentiment.

It's amazing that 1 player takes the blame for successive failures.

 

Flip it around, is Tav singularly responsibile for winning 55 and getting us to the EL Final? 

[Fa1833 498]

I have nothing personal against TAV , sure he at times was in control of everything from corners to free kicks and wouldn’t let anyone near them last season. Which at times stopped us from playing fast counter attacks etc,  I think the club knows it’s his last season as a Rangers captain/ player and he wants to let his contract run down.He has been an excellent captain and as mentioned got us a lot of goals and far in competitions, plus his wonderful goals against the manky mob , I think this season would be a great opportunity for him to lead the team out and also come off at certain points to our new captain whoever it may be, I’d like Raskin but then again will he be persuaded to stay or have his head turned by a EPL side 🤞 we keep him for a few more seasons and watch him mature into a player he is capable of becoming. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Fa1833

[Scott7 6,951]

17 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Serial losers all the same,

At the time it seemed grim but it was never over by Hallowe’en. The

last dozen seasons has been mostly embarrassing.

 

Tavernier has been an excellent player for Rangers but the last two seasons show that his athleticism is falling off. Why wouldn’t it? That said, he has never been captain material which is not a criticism. Neither were Laudrup or Gascoigne.

[Whosthedado 1,886]

32 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Serial losers all the same, if you go by todays fans assessment on this and previous squads - if you're not first and all that.

They are serial losers. Tav has been Captain for a fair chunk of that time.

 

We finish second in a two horse race and have done consistently... part of that is our 'Captain' to blame