Who should be the new manager?

[JohnMc 3,230]

Much as I'm underwhelmed, concerned even, by everything going on at the club currently, appointing Steven Gerrard as manager is hardly the act of lunatics. Assuming that Advocaat, Souness and McLeish are basically retired from club management then Gerrard's record in Scotland is better than any other manager who isn't a former Celtic manager. His departure from the club left a bad taste and his subsequent record is fairly ordinary. But then Walter Smith's time at Everton was mainly spent fighting relegation, Souness had some success but also failure as did McLeish. So success elsewhere is no guarantee of success here, and vice versa. I loved Stevie Davis as a player, my favourite player of the last 20 years, but I'd prefer an experienced number 2. I've no opinion on Henderson, he's playing for Ajax this season so clearly able to make a contribution on the park. 

 

If it's Gerrard, and i've no inside knowledge that it is, then he won't get the time he was given last time around. He won't get 3 seasons to build something, he'll get one if he's lucky. So I doubt there will be no 'building a system' or player development plans, it'll be about creating a side that can win the league next season. That will need experienced players, guys commanding bigger salaries and with very little future sell on value. 

 

Gerrard might be a better manager than last time, he's certainly more experienced. But the Tims aren't managed by Lennon this time, and whatever we might think of Rodgers he knows how to win the league. 

[lenny3k 836]

1 hour ago, Rousseau said:

Wow! Give the other teams a chance!

Its essentially a more expensive version of what we've just got rid of

[Gonzo79 15,386]

5 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

Assuming that Advocaat, Souness and McLeish are basically retired from club management then Gerrard's record in Scotland is better than any other manager who isn't a former Celtic manager.

Callum Davidson wants a word.  😉

[Fa1833 463]

29 minutes ago, buster. said:

Yes, that makes total sense.

However, you still have a supposed 49% chunk of various shareholders who aren't selling their shares. 

 

Do the '49%' stand asíde and allow prospective owners to do what they want ?

 

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The reason I bring this up is the strong rumour of a Gerrard appointment.

 

I could envisage the current board making that choice but I'm struggling to understand the prospective new owners thinking behind it.

Sounds like a classic 'pile your money in and if it goes south, we told you so' scenario, rather than a truly collaborative effort. Let's hope this new investment by the 49ers actually demonstrates how a club can be run successfully, and reveals that the remaining 49% are indeed focused on profit, not primarily on long-term sustainability. It's going to be interesting to see how the 49ers make the other 49% look if they implement the same model they have shown with Leeds. As for the SG rumours, I’m not 100% convinced despite the gossip going around. 

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[buster. 5,764]

4 minutes ago, Fa1833 said:

Sounds like a classic 'pile your money in and if it goes south, we told you so' scenario, rather than a truly collaborative effort. Let's hope this new investment by the 49ers actually demonstrates how a club can be run successfully, and reveals that the remaining 49% are indeed focused on profit, not primarily on long-term sustainability. It's going to be interesting to see how the 49ers make the other 49% look if they implement the same model they have shown with Leeds. As for the SG rumours, I’m not 100% convinced despite the gossip going around. 

You've lost me !! 😂

 

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Should we rename them the 51'ers otherwise things might get confused 😂😂😂

 

[Graeme Ro55 1,147]

If there are interviews for the managers job actually taking place before the new majority shareholders are in place, before the new dof is in place, then who is doing them ? 

[buster. 5,764]

4 minutes ago, Graeme Ro55 said:

If there are interviews for the managers job actually taking place before the new majority shareholders are in place, before the new dof is in place, then who is doing them ? 

The suggestion is Stewart and Steinsson. 

 

I guess the logic being that each represents and reports to current board / AC&49VC

 

Tha band is getting together ACVC 😂😂😂

 

Andrew Cavenagh & 49ers Venture Capitalists. 

 

 

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[Fa1833 463]

8 minutes ago, buster. said:

You've lost me !! 😂

 

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Should we rename them the 51'ers otherwise things might get confused 😂😂😂

 

Let's do it great suggestion! 51’ers it is. I'm hoping for a truly 100% collaboration effort by all board members! Yet as things stand we just don't know who is pulling the strings, will the “51’ers” be taking advice from the experienced 49% club or will they be stamping their mark with good intentions? Time will tell and I  can't wait for next few days/weeks to find out who we have as a manager 😂 I’m sure you can clearly see my brain isn't fully wired and I’m jumping to all sorts of scenarios /conclusions. 

[Gonzo79 15,386]

It's obvious the new owners will have the final say in who the new manager is, if the takeover is definitely happening.  

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[Bluedell 6,221]

1 hour ago, buster. said:

Yes, that makes total sense.

However, you still have a supposed 49% chunk of various shareholders who aren't selling their shares. 

 

Do the '49%' stand asíde and allow prospective owners to do what they want ?

 

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The reason I bring this up is the strong rumour of a Gerrard appointment.

 

I could envisage the current board making that choice but I'm struggling to understand the prospective new owners thinking behind it.

It's not really 49% though. A chunk of that will have no say. There's the Easdales, C1872, the shares that have been banned, the punters etc.

 

But yes, effectively the 51% will control the board and have their say on virtually everything. Some existinng board members may hang onto their seats short term as part of the sale agreement, but their influence will be minimised.

 

I get what you're saying about Gerrard though. I guess he's a big name for the new guys and we're of  relatively limited attraction for other big names. We're not going to get a Nuno Espírito Santo, if he were to become available, for example.