Bluedell 6,158 Posted Friday at 10:39 Share Posted Friday at 10:39 1 hour ago, stewarty said: My take is that the club was simply waiting for the next banner that was even a little bit edgy in order to ensure they have approval over future tifos and banners. The minutes seem to back this up. That's easier said than done. For example, they could have swapped out the unfurled banner at the last moment when the club had agreed something that didn't include the "rebel scum" wording. However as a principle, the club should have the say on what's allowed, and I'm surprised that they didn't. I'm sure that the UB's and their ultra "code" won't see it that way, and it would be such a shame if it resulted in the tifos ending. Many of them have been great over the years. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,128 Posted Friday at 11:57 Share Posted Friday at 11:57 1 hour ago, Bluedell said: That's easier said than done. For example, they could have swapped out the unfurled banner at the last moment when the club had agreed something that didn't include the "rebel scum" wording. However as a principle, the club should have the say on what's allowed, and I'm surprised that they didn't. I'm sure that the UB's and their ultra "code" won't see it that way, and it would be such a shame if it resulted in the tifos ending. Many of them have been great over the years. For sure, and the minutes seem to back up the difficulty in trying to oversee tifos at least from a Fan Board perspective. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,128 Posted Friday at 12:08 Share Posted Friday at 12:08 2 hours ago, buster. said: Ultras groups in football are fighting against general societal trends regards freedom of expression. Within the stadium, the UB are onto a loser given that our support in general won't think twice if there are eventually measures taken against them. Freedom of expression does not equate to freedom from consequence. Every £ of a fine received, is money that can't be invested in the club. IMO, its only natural that this is the line that many draw. 2 hours ago, buster. said: This is just the direction of travel and although large, I think that our support are relatively easy to 'manage' in this type of dispute. Worse is the "why don't you take more action against them over there" type of comment (from both sides) that only enables authorities to make up and enforce more and more rules and regulations. I personally don't get worked up about what other fans say/do, but whataboutery is fierce when it comes to this stuff, and a natural consequence when there appears to be different sets of expectations depending on who you support. Our support are easy to 'manage' as you say, because our response is predictable. Personally I would just resort to taking the utter piss out of them. Imagine a giant tifo of Cerny skooshing their bench/fans... we'd dine out on that for ages! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,839 Posted Friday at 12:11 Share Posted Friday at 12:11 1 hour ago, Bluedell said: So they shouldn't support the lifeblood of the club? Hmmm. The lifeblood of the club are often described as supporters. The nature of the relationship is quite clear. 1 hour ago, Bluedell said: There is no squabble with the police or the SPFL. The benefit would have been not alienating their customer base...the basis of any business. As I said there is no benefit. This does not alienate the supporters in any significant way. The ticket, and merchandise, revenue will continue to flow in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 6,794 Posted Friday at 14:19 Share Posted Friday at 14:19 As soon as I saw the banner my heart leapt with joy but my head took over instantly: Souness: devil incarnate. Shotgun: troubles, violence peace process (remember that last one?) Take aim: incitement to violence. Rebel scum: oh no; what a bead-clutcher. The media, SPFL/SFA, Scottish government firestorm would be immediate and immense and never ending. Luckily the Board saw it coming and got in first and shot the fox. In a perfect world no one would be offended and if anyone had been offended it wouldn’t have mattered. But the world is not perfect. The world is tilted against Rangers. So, in an uneven firefight do not give ammunition to the enemy. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,993 Posted Friday at 16:25 Share Posted Friday at 16:25 Now I’d imagine those that put the banner forward showed it to someone at Rangers for approval looks like a banner was approved was it the same banner these days people are easily offended it was a big own goal because it took the shine off a decent performance and gave the inky fingers in the press ammunition to fire at the club. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,306 Posted Friday at 16:37 Share Posted Friday at 16:37 The fact the banner is still being discussed at length shows how weak we have become as a club and a support. They had a banner celebrating a convicted terrorist murderer a few weeks ago. They hate us and will always find something to get offended about. Stop caring what they think. The banner should've said paedo scum instead of rebel scum but other than that it was terrific and everything football rivalry is about. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready1314 121 Posted Friday at 16:41 Share Posted Friday at 16:41 2 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: The fact the banner is still being discussed at length shows how weak we have become as a club and a support. They had a banner celebrating a convicted terrorist murderer a few weeks ago. They hate us and will always find something to get offended about. Stop caring what they think. The banner should've said paedo scum instead of rebel scum but other than that it was terrific and everything football rivalry is about. Everyone at the club is gutless and will do anything to appease the filth media. Like I said before this club is nothing like the club we were all brought up with. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 6,794 Posted Friday at 16:52 Share Posted Friday at 16:52 7 minutes ago, Ready1314 said: Like I said before this club is nothing like the club we were all brought up with. Nor is the World unfortunately. It’s pretty much died down as far as our enemies are concerned. Stewart’s intervention saw to that. No doubt those among us who disapprove will decline to renew season tickets. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 6,158 Posted Friday at 16:53 Share Posted Friday at 16:53 10 minutes ago, Ready1314 said: Everyone at the club is gutless and will do anything to appease the filth media. Like I said before this club is nothing like the club we were all brought up with. Judging by comments on this thread, we should be doing anything to appease those who pretend to be offended as well. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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