The Rangers Summer 2025 Transfer Rumours and Deals - Thread

[Gonzo79 15,666]

1 minute ago, compo said:

Everton are bringing in a new right back maybe we should ask about Patterson maybe even a Loan 

Or we could stop looking at ex-Rangers players.  

Max Aarons looks to be joining - I doubt we'll bring in another RB, particularly with Tav sticking around.  

[JohnMc 3,337]

1 hour ago, Gonzo79 said:

I think you are missing the context of how it has been used by Martin and the new owners.  

Basically, we need to replace the acceptance of failure in the squad - everyone is aware of that.  

I don't think I am. Rangers don't accept failure. We've fired 3 full time managers since our last title win, that's the opposite of accepting failure, it's literally not accepting it. Our squad has two players left from the squad that played in the Europa League final (Tav and Leon King), again this is the exact opposite of accepting failure. We've changed managers, coaches, tactics, styles and players without success. 

There isn't an acceptance of failure at Rangers, from the support to the manager to the players. That doesn't mean we won't fail, clearly. I've reservations about our owners however creating a new 'culture' at the club, for me, makes perfect sense. The previous culture wasn't working. When Martin speaks about players 'adding culturally' he's talking about how they'll fit, their personality, are they open to his ideas and how the directors see the club. 

Harking back to Man Utd under Ferguson. Ferguson created a siege mentality, that somehow the authorities favoured Liverpool and the London clubs over Man Utd. This was of course bullshit. Ferguson needed players who would buy this though, who'd believe it as true and use it to motivate themselves. Ferguson recognised that some players, mainly experienced players who had been at other english sides would recognise this as the nonsense it was. Whereas young players and players from outside England would accept it as true because he told them it. Culturally he needed players who would be open to this. 

 

So much of top flight sport is psychological. Culture feeds into that, creates the environment where players can become a team that can win the title. 

 

[Gonzo79 15,666]

At least we've established that Alex Ferguson was a liar.  😀

[ranger_syntax 5,012]

38 minutes ago, compo said:

Everton are bringing in a new right back maybe we should ask about Patterson maybe even a Loan 

He knows the club. He knows the league. He would do a job.

[JohnMc 3,337]

40 minutes ago, L72 said:

So..we signed decent players? You do a disservice to Chris Woods, England Goalkeeper, Terry Butcher England Captain, Colin West England international, Jimmy Nichols Northern Ireland international, formerly of Man United, Graham Roberts England International.

 

Souness basically added the England national team including it's captain, and dragged the standards up.

 

What I've said throughout this discussion, you build the team in the image you want, you don't sign players and impose that image on them.

 

 

Woods had played one friendly for England before joining Rangers, Butcher wasn't England captain when he joined us, Ipswich had just been relegated too. Colin Wast never played international football and Roberts was never an England regular. Jimmy Nicholl was winding down his career in Canada when he signed for us that time. Butcher was a brilliant player and Woods and Roberts a big improvement on what we had before, but to suggest we added the Englad team is well wide of the mark. 

[Gonzo79 15,666]

It's concerning that we're using Ferguson and Souness (two proper old school brutal bastards) as examples of the sort of culture we want, when we've brought in Russell Martin as head coach.  Martin, who has done nothing of note, stated he'd rather lose playing the right way and whose dad is a yahoo.  

 

So, as things stand, the terminology smacks of hollow jargon.  

Hopefully it doesn't remain so.  

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Gonzo79

[L72 564]

2 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

Woods had played one friendly for England before joining Rangers, Butcher wasn't England captain when he joined us, Ipswich had just been relegated too. Colin Wast never played international football and Roberts was never an England regular. Jimmy Nicholl was winding down his career in Canada when he signed for us that time. Butcher was a brilliant player and Woods and Roberts a big improvement on what we had before, but to suggest we added the Englad team is well wide of the mark. 

We had Terry Butcher, Chris Woods, Roberts, Trevor and Gary Stevens, Ray Wilkins, 

 

It's well documented Souness' signing policy when he came to us was to lure top English internationals because of the Heysel ban in Europe.

 

So I don't think it's wide of the mark to suggest we effectively signed the England team, it was even reported.

 

Philosophy culture, jargon.

 

He signed high level players and dragged everything up.

 

 

[compo 8,213]

11 minutes ago, L72 said:

We had Terry Butcher, Chris Woods, Roberts, Trevor and Gary Stevens, Ray Wilkins, 

 

It's well documented Souness' signing policy when he came to us was to lure top English internationals because of the Heysel ban in Europe.

 

So I don't think it's wide of the mark to suggest we effectively signed the England team, it was even reported.

 

Philosophy culture, jargon.

 

He signed high level players and dragged everything up.

 

 

But could we afford them big fees big wages i think the then owners the Lawrence group realized that and maybe that was one of the reasons for selling to Murray 

[der Berliner 4,348]

2 hours ago, compo said:

Everton are bringing in a new right back maybe we should ask about Patterson maybe even a Loan 

I'd agree ... and then I checked his injury record. It would suit our signings just as well, Tav would play on till retirement ...

Edited 13 hours ago by der Berliner

[Sutton_blows_goats 6,628]

2 hours ago, compo said:

Everton are bringing in a new right back maybe we should ask about Patterson maybe even a Loan 

He can keep Sterling company in the treatment room. Hes always injured. Plus we have Tav and Aarons.