CammyF 6,878 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 So, for all those posters who said that we are, or would be a better team without Barry Ferguson - are you still of that same opinion? Cammy F 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokiss 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Nice one Cammy. This is gonna be interesting. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraser54 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Couldn't agree more mate I have always backed Ferguson Come on anti-ferge brigade. Where are you ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I think we miss Fergie when he doesn't play, but he's no longer the sort of player who can win games on his own almost and pull us up when we're struggling. I do think the players around him play better when he's on the park, so maybe that would have made a difference tonight, but I don't think he's the reason why we're out of Europe. Just as during last season he wasn't the main reason we got to the UEFA Cup Final and blew hot & cold for much of the time. If he was that influential, he'd have stepped up when we were struggling to beat average teams in the SPL during the run-in. And he's certainly not irreplaceable, its just that the management team have done thing to look towards his long-term replacement when its been obvious for 2 or 3 years that he has become injury-prone. We lack creativity from midfield and I'm not sure Fergie is the sort of player who can unlock defences any more. He can certainly pull the strings in the midfield and make it tick, but we need others in there to complement him and do the stuff he can't. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Ally 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 So, for all those posters who said that we are, or would be a better team without Barry Ferguson - are you still of that same opinion? Cammy F Glossed over this in my rant. Although to be fair, not much needs saying regarding this. It is clearly nonsense. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beattie 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Have always argued to people: 'You'll miss him when he's not there' and tonight, again, was a crucial point proven. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 We should be good enough to cope without him, especially against a side like Kaunas. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Ally 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 We should be good enough to cope without him, especially against a side like Kaunas. True, unfortunately we're not. And takes Cammy's thread onto a different arguement. The debate he initiated needs discussing too. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 So, for all those posters who said that we are, or would be a better team without Barry Ferguson - are you still of that same opinion? Cammy F An unfair question, as he's been replaced with Christian Dailly. Of course we're worse off without him. Had he been replaced by Davis, this could have been quite an interesting question. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yes, but I think things like this and the Boyd, Miller debates could de-rail the bigger and IMO more important discussions. In isolation, I don't think playing Miller or not having Fergie are the reason we've been playing poorly, or lost tonight. Its a combination of these and many other issues. Playing players out of position; mis-spending the transfer budget; poor scouting; negative tactics; not dropping players when they're off-form or carrying injuries; too many average players in the side etc etc Not to mention our "leadership". 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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