Blue Moon

Alex Thomson is now saying it is no big deal, but from what I can gather, it is about Regan but not Lawell. Think he is due on STV right now in an STV special about Rangers.

Thanks, Andy.

I never saw myself as a forum type person but was so incensed by what I was reading in the media that I started looking at forums. I like this one because there are rules which are adhered to and there are no skulls. I occasionally look in to other forums, was banned from FF for suggesting we needed to wait until the next day for more information about CG's takeover ( lifetime ban as well lol) and have joined the Rangers Standard.

I really appreciate the articles and a lot of the debate on here and bow down to your superior knowledge and writing style

Then when they won't he will be forced to resign.

There are protestants, bigoted protestants and bigots. Protestants are mainly not bigoted because of the core teachings of their church but some are bigots despite that. The bigots have no church, are not protestants and know so little about religion they don't even know they are not protestants

Could it be something to do with the words? It sickens me that a new song has to be adapted to f*** catholics or the Pope. I have never been comfortable with that. I agree that it is a minority that think like that, but these songs are sung by the majority, which is what gives us a bad name. I firmly believe the majority of Rangers fans are not sectarian, now we need to prove it, sing songs about Rangers, not about other people's religion.

Were the admin duped by Green's claims of investors and Rangers men?

I have not been able to understand the sale of the club and why the admin entered into a binding agreement. Until this is fully explained, I will not trust them or Green. I will back the club to get it back on its feet but am extremely wary of a scenario where we buy shares and ST's and the value of the club goes through the roof and a £50 million price tag is placed on the club. I am not averse to the current owners making a profit but not to the extent of preventing the future well being of the club. I am worried that we will be left with owners that don't want us, cannot make a big enough profit to sell on and fail to invest properly in the club.

I agree with you about the sanctions absolutely. The problem is we are shafted, we have no say in what will happen to us and no-one that is prepared to back us, they all want to hammer us.

I think the time for calling us shamed Rangers is over. We heard you the previous one thousand times. At least he called us Rangers.

In Holland every small town has community sports facilities that are light years ahead of ours. These centres cater for the whole community with decent eating facilities, changing rooms etc and several grass and 3G pitches. In order to improve our youngsters, we need to pump money into grassroots facilities, which in our small towns are awful in most cases.

Fom ex pat newspaper in India

â??It hurts to see Rangers facing life in fourth tierâ??

Alex Leach / 11 July 2012

MICHAEL Mols admits it â??hurtsâ? to see his former club Rangers potentially facing up to life in the fourth tier of Scottish football after their much-publicised financial problems.

The Ibrox-based outfit entered administration in February with reported debts of $32.7m and, despite Rangersâ?? assets having since been bought up by a new company (â??newcoâ??) â?? Charles Greenâ??s Sevco 5088, theyâ??ve been barred from entering this forthcoming seasonâ??s Scottish Premier League (SPL).

Rangers could now have to fight their way back to the top flight from either the First, Second or Third Division, with a number of their playing personnel â?? including Steve Davis (Southampton), Steven Naismith (Everton) and Steven Whittaker (Norwich) â?? having already left for pastures new.

It appears theyâ??ll have to rebuild with fringe and youth players.

â??They will have to start from scratch again,â? said the retired Dutch striker, 41, who won the SPL (2002-03) once and domestic cup double twice (2001-02 & 2002-03 â?? the latter resulting in a historic treble) with Rangers between 1999 and 2004.

â??Itâ??s going to be difficult because I think theyâ??re going to be in the Third Division and then itâ??s hard to attract players.

â??But, on the other hand, you can make something positive from something negative. It gives the youth a great opportunity to show themselves.

â??They will have to build up from the beginning and, hopefully, they will progress as soon as possible because Rangers belong in the Premier League.

â??Rangers are still a big club in Scotland. Even if theyâ??re going to be in the Third Division, they have so many supporters all over the country.

â??Their dream is to play for Rangers and maybe now itâ??s easier to fulfil their dreams. Theyâ??ll always get the support.â?

Molsâ?? spell in Scotland was his only stint outside of his native country, with his playing days either side spent at Ajax, Cambuur, Den Haag, Feyenoord and â?? most notably â?? Twente Enschede and Utrecht.

Nonetheless, itâ??s clear he maintains a close association with the Gers even to this day. â??It hurts,â? Mols replied when asked how he felt personally about the clubâ??s dire plight. â??They have a saying: â??Once a Ranger, always a Rangerâ?? and thatâ??s true.â?

alex@khaleejtimes.com

I think it is hard to separate religion, history and politics and I wouldn't begin to try to explain this in the context of 20th century Scotland. However from my own experience as a child brought up in a very religious household, we learned tolerance and respect. I can remember watching football with my dad and supporting Celtic when they won the European cup and England when they won the world cup. Somewhere between then and now we have lost the plot and our society is much the worse for that. It would take more than a discussion on here to understand the present (interesting discussion though it is). One thing I am sure of is we need to return to supporting our team and that has nothing to do with religion. This is not to ignore our heritage but if you delve into the past you will see that the present bears no comparison to our heritage.

Thanks, Andy, have fixed it.

I agreed with Blue Peter intrinsically but when I take time to think about it, it is because I really do not like what all of this has done to me and it has been a reminder to be true to myself. Since Feb 14th I have hated everyone and everything, have become obsessive and revengeful and I do not like what I see. Thank you, Blue Peter.

That is below the belt. I too got to the goal posts but got suckered by the Fourth Division, only because I wouldn't put it past them. Now where did I put those blood pressure tablets....

I think for a lot of people it would come down to a choice of ST's or shares.

Well said RST.

Sums up my feelings pretty well, unfortunately for us it is too little, too late. When all of this is over and the post mortems begin, the media have a lot to answer for. I am in despair that they are not giving the SFA and SPL the same treatment that they gave us. Yes, it is the substance of this article but what about the rest of them? They should be ripping them apart, but then I am deluded because they don't have any integrity.

I agree, but at the same time can it be called a totally legal tax avoidance scheme if they're giving us such a huge bill now?

 

All a bit confusing in fairness.

I am confused by this too as my understanding now is that they are not pursuing us but the individuals who benefited from it, therefore where did the huge tax amount come from? Was that the amount owed but now they are saying not from us?

Ok mate i cant agree with this as simply it's just pissing in the wind but thats your choice.

I think in terms of the bigger picture you are probably right, but so far I have saved about £210 since mid May and the money I am saving will go to Rangers shares or the RFFF, so I am happy with that.

Why did you cancel mate?

I cancelled in April and the reason I gave them was the way the SFA were treating Rangers, not just the sanctions but the fact the SFA were doing nothing to assist a club in trouble. To be honest, I cannot remember the exact specifics now as there have been so many things have happened and it is difficult to keep track of what happened when. As I said, I was making an economic protest, telling them that they were sponsoring an organisation that was putting the boot into my club. I felt really angry and had no other way of venting my fury. I wrote to the SFA and SPL and never received a reply and telephoned the SFA and left a message and no-one got back to me. Their silence has been deafening unless it had the words sanctions or sporting integrity in it.

All this cow towing to septic is rather embarressing, but it does give all these bams the opportunity to point to Rangers as continually being the bad guys, as we may want to boycott them as a result of crawling to septic.

 

We'd be better trying ot get rid of Regan and Doncaster, but how can we do that?

 

Probably little chance as we'll be in the SFL, at whatever level, but surely we should be putting forward reasoned althernatives to what's going on at the moment in Scottish football.

I cannot see any way that these two incompetents will survive this. There is all round bad feeling towards them outwith the SPL (and no doubt secretly within it too). I would imagine they will be a major part of the parliamentry committee's work. At the very worst both will move on to pastures new, in a "promotion".

I cancelled my ESPN, but I love the Ryder Cup, Premiership, Champions League, etc and that's what I pay my Sky money for. Plus my wife and kid wouldn't have been best pleased.

 

Each to their own though, and hopefully the pressure will begin to show.

I have to say, I am really missing it. I can't believe how poor "council telly" is. I will look at other options in time, or just be more sociable and go to the pub more.

Agree mate, some of the total fundamentalist will cancel, but not many.

I certainly do not consider myself as a fundamentalist but did cancel my Sky. I see it in the same terms as a boycott, it is an economic protest.