SteveC

If the sheep had all been upset and snarling I could have seen the point but plod apart (and one or two fans, maybe) it is a really good natured photo. Very sad.

I noticed MW pointing out it was our best home run since 2001. I think it's a bit disingenuous though as it includes lower league games and not one game v. the only other team in Scotland that matters. We haven't beaten anyone of any worth. But long may it continue, of course!

It is an interesting list but on the other hand they look exactly like that - a team made up of free transfers. That's the level of our opposition and why in Scotland second place is really no place. Scotland's league is just an Old Firm competition. The normal way of things has been disrupted by the illegal and cowardly attacks on our club, our demotion and near death. However, even before that both the OF themselves and all the other clubs were on a steady path of decline. When I first started going to games (mid '60s) Scottish clubs could go toe to toe with Europe's finest - clubs like Dunfermline I mean! - and then there was that weird spell in the 80s when both the Arabs and the Sheep could at a time when we were dire as it happens. That spell in the 80s looks more an more like a total anomaly. Both them and us have since got to to Europa final I know but that's a very odd tournament. Big fish in little ponds get excited by it but teams with real European aspirations treat it as an embarrassment/waste of time/onerous duty until the semis (at the earliest!) Neither of us were amongst Europe's finest teams when we got to those finals, nowhere near them in fact. Whereas we were when I started going and we were playing teams with genuinely fine players. Now though? Now we are, as a league, amongst the dregs of the continent and so a team of free transfers and cast offs is enough to get into Europe - and straight back out again. Or maybe there can be the odd run further in the same way Dundalk punched above their weight this year. It gets less and less likely though. Hearts are dire and will be wherever they end up in the SPL. The fact that they could be anywhere from 2nd downwards says a lot about where they are playing not how 'good' a team has been put together. It's a dismal scenario that is not going to get any better any time soon.

Agreed, completely. I note too - to further their distance from reality - they think the ref was on our side. FFS.!!!!

"If the filthy huns score two against us ,I'll bare my arse in Dumbarton high street ," Poor Dumbarton!

Plod looks like (just about) the only person in that shot with no sense of fun, most sheepies are reacting well, tbf.

I'm not worked up about it but I do find it interesting. I remember that time very well and I would have expected him to have his eye on the Liverpool job not just because he was their captain but because that would have been "bettering himself" (albeit without European football). I'm not sure it was as easy to see then that moving to Man U from us would have been bettering himself. Ferguson himself has referred to us as Britain's biggest club around that time. Man U were heading towards a quarter of a century without winning the league. Liverpool's dynastic collapse was yet to occur and Sky and the Premier League were yet to change football on these isles. Liverpool's ex-captain going there would have been a huge story and stymied Souness's dream of managing Liverpool. For all those reasons - the history of Rangers, Man U, Liverpool and the Scottish and English leagues plus the reversal of what I had previously thought was in Souness's mind - going by his statements on the subject - I found it interesting. "Care" carries with it too many emotional connotations for me to claim that, but interest is another matter.

Yikes, was it me? Hell's teeth, I wrote nothing to provoke that - now I feel thoroughly victimised :D

Yes he was....most of the decisions were ludicrous but one of the yellows was correct and I can't remember now if it was this one or not, sorry.

Garner's effort was exemplary, and quite astonishing at times. I think I'd go for Hill though, if pushed - though I'd feel guilty about not giving it to Garner and a few others.

I meant from the club itself, cooponthewing. Sorry that you were attacked for pointing out the obvious. I think there's a fear among us because one certainly doesn't want to end up sounding like them. However, eventually you have to get over that and say what you see. I'd love to know what Warburton thinks of the decisions week in and week out since he arrived. He has occasionally mentioned some of the 'bizarre' decisions,

Am I hallucinating memories of him saying he'd only ever have left us for Liverpool? http://www.espnfc.co.uk/manchester-united/story/3010243/graeme-souness-i-would-have-taken-manchester-united-job-in-1989 Graeme Souness has said that he was ready to replace Sir Alex Ferguson as Manchester United manager in 1989. Souness was Rangers boss at the time when he was reportedly targeted by prospective United owner Michael Knighton, but the takeover was not concluded. The Scot, who had been a Liverpool legend on the pitch after winning three European Cups, told the Daily Mail: "Fergie was having a difficult time and the banners were up in the Stretford End. "I was manager of Rangers but I would have gone there. Damn right. I was flying. I am not sure how well I would have been received and I am sure United supporters will look upon that as a lucky escape now! But I would have taken it." Souness instead went on to be appointed as Liverpool manager in April 1991 and had a troubled spell in charge, eventually leaving after a shock FA Cup defeat against Bristol City in January 1994. Liverpool had played Auxerre at home in the UEFA Cup in November 1991 and, after the game, Souness was told about Nimes player Eric Cantona. Souness said: "We had played Auxerre at home and Michel Platini came to see me. He said he had a player -- a problem boy but a proper player. Cantona. I said the last thing I needed was another problem player. "I had 30-pluses that I was trying to get out so I didn't need more hassle. I said I was looking for something else. I said 'no thanks.'" Souness also spoke about how former United goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel wrote to him as he was a Liverpool fan and wanted to meet him. That approach was also rejected, though, as Liverpool were having difficulty trying to ease out Bruce Grobbelaar and had just signed David James. Souness added that he sees parallels between his time at Liverpool and what is happening at United now. "Look, everything I did when I was manager at Liverpool was wrong but the scenario at United now is exactly the same," he said. "The only difference is that it was one man for 25 years at United, whereas we had gone [bill] Shankly, [bob] Paisley, [Joe] Fagan, [Kenny] Dalglish. But the point is the squad needed changing, as it does at United post-Fergie. "Moyesy [David Moyes] signed [Marouane] Fellaini and [Juan] Mata [for United]. Then [Louis] van Gaal spent big on [Angel] Di Maria and [Anthony] Martial. Now it's £100 million on [Paul] Pogba. It's like there is no patience or strategy. "What United had under Fergie, and Liverpool had during the great years, was to go out and buy a couple of players and it didn't matter if they didn't do it straight away. They could be absorbed and allowed to settle down. "But United are having to buy players to be an instant success. They haven't got time. They are buying players under pressure and then those players are immediately under pressure. And that's hard." Souness added that United manager Jose Mourinho "knows his neck is on the line in his job like never before" and captain Wayne Rooney should not have been pictured out drinking while on England duty because of his responsibility as a leader. Arindam is ESPN FC's Manchester United correspondent. Follow him on Twitter @ARejSport.

I wish someone from us would officially bring up the situation with the officiating. It'll end up that we say something after a game we lose and it'll be out down to "sour grapes" and a "one off game" and "it even outs" Whereas the fact is that it is systemic.

Our oddly named new poster has had a hell of a first two posts. You'd almost think he dreamt this one up after changing from a linesman or referee's kit today.

Ref and linesmen continue their madness. ignore blatant piece of basketball by them. They get the award and score after rammy in which Wallace Waghorn and Jack all booked (second yellow for Jack). Mad ending and all because they are terrified to give us even clear decisions. It's beyond parody. We'll never win the league unless it changes because it'd just get worse the closer we got to doing so.

Hill, who has been superb, sent off. Will miss Hertz game

Ross County 2-2 v Hearts now

Another brilliant move. We are transformed. Corner

Yesssssssssssssssssssss Hodson 2-0 after fantastic move

Waghorn certainly working to impress. He's flying about.

Great ball by Garner too

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Miller time

I hate sounding like one of them but it's impossible that this is down to incompetence. Whatever his motivation is (fear could be one answer), this is deliberate, there's no confusion, no bad sight lines, no alternate interpretations. There may be incompetence involved too but not for every ridiculous decision. There's another one. No contact and a direct free kick to them in a dangerous area. He was tricked there rather than bias though.....I hope.

Brother of Brian MacLean. Though Peter Grant would seem likelier.

Stephen MacLean. According to the unwashed he's a big bear. Certainly disguising it well today. It's like Chris Sutton is the effing ref