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Mr thread polis, Ever so sorry for developing the conversation into areas that you don't seem to approve of or in part, agree with. I did directly address the topic in my first post. However, I didn't realise that the former freedom of speech warrior had appointed himself as thread polis. Well, maybe I did because you have made a habit of it, every time I come back on here. FO

"A slight hangover" Its a wee bit more than that. Bar the odd exceptional year, we haven't been able to live within our means for decades. Our main rivals have become the polar opposite. It was the main reason behind the fall in 2012. Creatively, trying to lower outgoings. In the age of FFP, we have to radically change our addiction of spending too much money, badly.

Do the new FFP rules allow a club to cover losses in this way ?

The leagues haven't yet been designed but I get your point. What I was getting at was access to better revenue streams. To eventually be reasonably competitive at the level we were shoehorned into. At the moment, we aren't competitive in the SPFL.

What does outside investment mean ? Back to (remaining in) the 'good old days' of spending more than we earn, perhaps? How would that go down with the new FFP regulations? Is there a queue of well intentioned extremely wealthy benefactors because I didn't see many of them in 2012. Bennett is at least right in that we firstly have to become viable and it will be painful.

Back in '86, we were a sleeping giant. Now we are a badly run, financial basket case with a support who have next to no patience. Good luck trying to get the calibre of leadership that we require to directly compete with a club who are miles ahead of us, when money and patience are scarce. A downsizing rebuild. Yet another outside bet. This has been coming. I was accused of being too pessimistic when I talked about it over the years. Restructured European leagues is our best bet to become relevant again. But it won't be in the short term.

Then, David Holmes was given the where with all to help bring in a big hitter, Souness alongside England Internationals at a time when European football wasn't effectively, a closed shop and domestic rivals weren't out of sight. There was also scope to significantly increase revenue by filling the stadium. Today, it is a LOT more difficult. We are badly run, have weak leadership, little finance and the challenge will be to maintain attendance levels.

I'd say that the current situation is very different to pre-Souness in various important aspects. The league is a lot lesss competitive and we find ourselves moored in a very predictable second place. A long way behind the team above and over a season, a long way in front of the provinicial pack. We have went decades spending more money than we generate. We have become used to spending our way (often badly) out of problems. Even after 2012, when things caught up on us. We dressed up the continual overspend as a strategic medium term measure that would be financed and get us back to the top of Scottish football, 'structured losses'. Fine, only we can't shake the addiction. John Bennett rightly recognises the need to change. But it seems to me that he hasn't got the cojones to face up to a support who generally don't really get the extent to which things need to change and the time it may take. Fergus McCann was the guy who turned the other side of the city around and later, they happened upon Peter Lawwell, who took charge of building on those new financial foundations. Two strong characters, who most of the Celtic support didn't/don't care for because the short-term medicine wasn't what they wanted. But they didn't flinch or seem to care about their popularity, headlines and social media 'feedback'. We don't have that type of leadership. We don't have the money to embark on our usual M.O. path to solve problems FFP further complicates matters In a season or two, European football post August will not be a given. The normal timescales of cyclical success in Scottish football no longer apply and as it stands, we depend on them making an complete erse of things. Only way out is for a good manager to be given time to build a team/squad. I thought Clement was that man. Now, I'm not sure but looking at his signings, he does seem committed to the medium term and we need to support the 'project' and cross our fingers. Given expectation timescales, I'm not optimistic. As for what Compo was getting at. When you come away from an OF scudding with questions about the application of some players, it suggests that something isn't quite right.

Getting bogged down or divided in small relatively unimportant details is a speciality of the majority of Rangers fans on message boards. It is little wonder that as a group, we have been shown to be so gullible and easy to exploit. However, it goes beyond the support. I see a consistent lack of strategic competence at a board level. Sometimes, we might talk a good game but we are unable to carry it out. We are currently where we deserve to be.

Then don't mention it and put me on ignore.

Don't make inaccurate comments and I wouldn't need to correct you.

What is a little "silly" and wholly inaccurate, is your comment on the word "omnishambles". The club is currently an omnishambles and it isn't because the club lost a football match.

This isn't a job interview, I don't care what school he went to. He has been chairman since April of last year and he has made a horlicks of it. I recognise what he has achieved in his business career, that he chose to invest in Rangers at a time of need and that he has extended credit facilities to the club at lower than market rate. Great !! It is obvious that he is dedicated to what he is doing and he is giving everything towards the cause. All that said, he isn't the type of leader that the club need at this moment. The board need to bring in a particular type of CEO to do that job. Bennett has a good idea of what is needed but along with the board, he has to give this remit to a man who, with a fair wind and sufficient finance, is capable of delivering. Easy to say, but very difficult to find the right man and for that man to go to a gun fight with only a knife. I mentioned "a young David Holmes" earlier. He was given an automatic machine gun.

It's going to be Kyiv. They are 0-1 to the good after half an hour (7-2 up on aggregate).

What about a Mo Johnston type of signing. Peter Lawwell 😂 Nobody likes him, he doesn't care. Supporters want signings, he doesn't give a f**k, he does what is best for the business. He has, over a long period, sorted out a business and brought stability throughout the club. At Ibrox, we have done the polar opposite and that is why we are where we are. A lot of wishy washy incompetence since the spiv era (2011-2015) and the creative financial dogs dinner that went before it. A young David Holmes could be the man.

It goes beyond communication. Whilst he has a handle on what is wrong and what needs doing. He is simply not the man to take charge and get things done. He hasn't got it in him. It is an extremely challenging situation and no-one will find it straight forward.

A very rough guide (Douglas Park still around for best part of year). (All) Directors emoluments (no breakdown )totaled £1,258,511 for the year ending 30th June 2023.

Obviously, age isn't ideal. However, this is what Bennett referred to as a short term signing (not all will be long term projects/investments) and we desperately need good defenders, ready to rock and roll. In this particular case, if he can add leadership and basically take charge of the backline, good. In other words, we would actually get a benefit from his experience (age). Good vibes....

Desperately need a Pröpper centre back. Let's hope Robin is the real deal. Koppen needs to start contributing in making a little go a long way.

He gets 1200 mygers points a week #scandal

I see you both need pictures to communicate 😂 Time to decant to the beach.....

As it stands, the biggest obstacle to that happening is Celtic, themselves. Their support will be lapping it up but Lawwell won't be happy with how big the gap could get. Not good for business. They closed the top tier when we were in the lower divisions. The escape route for both teams is the, up until now, fabled restructuring of European football.

WTF are you on about ? Does anyone think that what they say on a message board will change the world or the boardroom decision making ? No ! Given the time you spend on the message board, I would have thought you'd have realised that your point, is an automatic given.

"The problem is that if he accepts a big contract then he has to match it on the pitch." _------------_ No, what you say is incidental and in this case, relates to predictable consequences. The problem was that the club gave him such a ludicrous contract.

One could repeatedly, pathetically and indirectly snipe at another poster on Gersnet and all it would do, would be to reflect on a different omnishambles altogether 😂 You sniped repeatedly, when, a year and more ago, I posted on our terrible signing policy of outside bets, lack of good communication, expectation levels, economic woes and general direction. Turns out, I was right. It wasn't difficult to see and those in charge would have seen it up close. But they charged down the same old path regardless. Bennett talks about radically changing direction but he hasn't got it in him to carry it through. Not many have. We will have to go lower before general expectation levels get to a place that allow it to happen. That would come with the real risk of a drop off in support.