pete

If you never put up an argument then you can never be wrong. Success with your one liners that are worthless to everyone.

Great mate! Realisation is the first step to recovery.

Lets get that one out of the way first. That's not open to debate. Don't you see every game is different excuses. It was the managers choice to pick Bates and Beerman he did have other choices. It was the Managers choice to play the same tactics that got us a walloping just a short time earlier. Mutry had the same players at his disposal just a few weeks earlier and got a draw. Celtic never got out of 2nd gear yesterday and in the 2nd half just used it as a training session. If we accept the place we are in then we are destined to stay there.

I think you need to improve your reading skills. You are making things up what is said as you go along.

Watch match of the day and take note of all the dodgy decisions. Tune in to any football competition in the world and there are dodgy decisions. We certainly have taken over the Celtic paranoia cloak and are wearing it well. Yes there is a Celtic hue in Scotland but not every decision against us is a biased referee that is just crap. We are now looking at every refereeing decision against us and analysing it from every angle. As the saying goes if you look long enough you will see what you want to see.

I never said we should have or could have, although it does happen sometimes that teams play better with 10 men. it is however not realistic to accept that as standard.

It was 1-1 and they were in the ascendancy when he was sent off. While I agree the ref changed the game and was totally diabolical, there is no guarantee we would have won that game all things being even.

How are we fighting with one hand behind our back? If you take Celtic out of the equation then we have a far bigger budget than any other team. Where were Celtic when Rodgers took over? They just pipped Aberdeen to the title and lost to us in the Scottish cup. Everyone agreed they were crap. He only needed one window to turn things around and only bought a few players. Herrera 2mill Pena 2.8 Morelos 1mil( well worth it) Ask Tommy Wright or Alan Archibald what he could do with that money. That one hand tied behind our back is a fallacy.

It's Warburton's fault or the lady that makes the tea's fault. Anybodies fault but Pedro's. Maybe the ref puts something in the tea. That's it! It is the referee's putting things in the tea. We will need to watch for the fourth man sneaking up the tunnel just before half time. I think we have got this sussed out now.

I just want a manager that can get a team playing winning football. Surely it was not asking much to beat part-timers from Luxemburg or loose 5-1 to Celtic after our Development team coach had managed a draw with the same players. We can bum up today all we want but it was a training game for Celtic they hardly broke sweat. St Johnstone and Partick Thistle put up a better fight against them than we did. Oh yes I am being unrealistic again.

There are hundreds of managers I find it hard to believe Pedro is top of every clubs list. We certainly weren't standing in a queue to get him.

Listen we have to forget the past now. Pedro had a cash chest other managers in the SPL would die for and we are still lying 5th, Tomorrow, if Motherwell win it will be 6th only having beaten teams at the bottom of the league except Motherwell. Keeping bringing up the past for the tims, okay I get that but we have always had a budget bigger than the rest of the league. Pedro has been paying millions for players and still can't get them playing.

Partick Thistle had a complete new team with a fraction of the cost. Warburton had a complete new team at a fraction of the cost. Pedro is 6 months in and has not been able to get any team playing consistent. What is it we have not won 3 or 4 games in a row since he came in? Oh yes, I forgot that is Warburton's fault.

I never said he shouldn't be out on loan or sold would have been better I am just asking if we have improved. If we have so much better players why are we still 5th in the league? I will accept we have better players. surely then it is up to the manager to get us playing to beat other teams.

The road back may be longer under Pedro. You seem to forget our worst result in Europe and we have yet to beat a top team under him. We couldn't even beat Partick Thistle over 180 minutes. how much of a budget did Archibald have? Or did he have far superior players at his dispense.

Has Pedro improved us as a whole though? we are 5th in the league a possible 6 points behind Aberdeen if they win tomorrow. Warburton had us 2nd for most of the time. Under Warburton we could dominate games under Pedro we can't. What would Warburton have done if he was given the money Pedro has had. I am not a Warburton fan btw I am just not sure Pedro has improved us greatly.

We were at a different level when Warburton came in and he bought specifically to get us promotion. Is Pena any better than Halliday? Is Herrera better than Waghorn? Is Dalcio better than Forrester? His defenders look better on paper but they have yet to prove themselves. Warburton shouldn't be the judging factor though.

claiming your right by default. You sound like Maggie Thatcher and her people failing to vote is a vote for her.

I don't keep stats on managers but there is nothing to make me think Pedro will be the most successful.

I just hope the 4 are not Pedro signings. He needs to sign 9 to get 4 half decent ones

I will go further and say imo we would have lost by more iv Alves was in the team

I switched the sound out for the second half. I could only hear one team and it wasn't songs I knew or wanted to sing.

Windass was our best player in the first half. He even tracked back and saved 2 probable goals even although it was not his man he was tracking.

Miller did the multiple of Sweet FA when he came on. Every first touch was a 4 yard dash. once he even got the ball well inside the Celtic half. His first touch was a 5 yard dash then his second was almost as bad leaving only a 60 yard pass back to Fotheringham. Pena wasn't great but Miller was far worse.

Dutch commentator said it was a penalty.