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That company certainly doesn't appear to be the Liberty that is the focus of our buyout.
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The Trust certainly seem confident of their information.
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No firm date but before January seems to be the buzz...
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We like to try and complement any new developments...
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Cheers mate - you have any recommendations?
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First of all, I'd like to make clear I'm as excited as any other bear about today's news about a hitherto unknown Scottish millionaire supposedly being in the final stages of buying our football club. To have the debt cleared and a fresh new regime in charge of our future is intriguing and it's no wonder our fans are keen to find out more. And that is the key to judging this front page 'exclusive' - we must know more. It's all very well the James Traynor's and Darrell King's of this world bagging themselves a few more readers today but while the hyperbole sounds good, we need some meat added to the bones. Despite the public protestations of the club in recent months, private negotiations have been ongoing regarding the sale of it to a consortium of interested parties - some of whom may have pulled out, some not. These include the new face, 'turnaround specialist' Craig Whyte along with the previously named Andrew Ellis and Vladimir Antonov. Others such as current Rangers director Dave King may well be involved further down the line. Certainly, speculation in the background has been rife and, as always, it is difficult to distinguish fact from fiction. Even in the newspaper reports of today we have no official club comment and can only take the word of 'sources' and 'insiders' amongst the usual sound-bites about debts, tax queries and war-chests. This is where our support must then ask themselves a few questions. The last decade has seen dramatic downsizing occur at our great club. From the extravagance of Dutch international signings and 5* training grounds, to the paucity of broken Jumbotrons and loan swaps with Aberdeen; never has our future been so worrying. Indeed, if it were not for the best efforts of Walter Smith and his players in delivering a UEFA Cup Final run and two SPL titles on the trot, the current debt of around �£25million would be much higher. Therefore, any removal of this debt and the associated inflexibility of the bank who hold it is definitely something to be happy about. The question is how does any new owner stop the same situation happening again? Does he invest more money into the squad and hope that this brings continued domestic success - as well as the crucial CL monies? Or does he maintain prudence and gamble on the qualities of the existing manager and players? Risk-taking is something that has been at the forefront of our club's strategy since Sir David Murray bought the club over 20 years ago. Some have come off [Walter Smith (twice), Mo Johnston and stadium improvements], some have not [Paul Le Guen, Tore Andre Flo and over-investment in the Advocaat era]. We don't have the luxury of such mistakes now so any new club administration must be aware of the risks involved. �£20million 'war-chests' make for good newspaper sales but I doubt Craig Whyte (or his associates) will be gifting this cash, so how do we eventually pay for it? Wouldn't we just be swapping one �£20million+ debt for another? If one positive has come out of the decade of downsizing it is that surely Rangers fans are more savvy than ever before. While we're all ambitious and have high expectations, we must accept that our future isn't one which can be gambled away on a whim. After all, we can all argue for or against the Murray era but one of the few consensuses between these camps is that it lacked vision, lacked planning and lacked supporter involvement. As such, before we back any new owner we must know more about their plans. Rangers supporters are the lifeblood of the club and our financial contribution has never been more important. Our loyalty and commitment should not be taken for granted and for our backing we're entitled to be treated with respect and worked with (instead of against) as we enter any new ownership era. Yes, we cautiously welcome the news of Craig Whyte's interest but there is much more to be done before we can accurately judge the merits of his intentions. This should not be done on the pages of tabloids but in direct consultation with a support eager for positive change. Actions speak louder than words.
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I'd like to know where this �£20million warchest comes from? I doubt the guy will be giving us it out of the good of his heart so how do we pay off this �£20million when push comes to shove?
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The Trust obviously have some inside info so we can only hope they are basing their thoughts upon this while, like the rest of us, remaining rightly wary until we know more about the guy's plans. It is good news that a buyer seems keen but it is impossible to back anyone unless we know exactly how they plan to run the club.
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The lad at Celtic seems to have done well enough so far....?
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Sorry missed this last night - Darrell King and Richard Wilson both have stories.
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Front page of Herald as well...
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The Sun may have their own version as well with Dave King involved....
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This 'leak' is to deliberately coincide with the Celtic AGM tomorrow...
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We can only wait and see what plans this group have... But the information tonight is that we will have a new owner for 2011...
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Perhaps - my information about him still being involved is from last month...
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Nope, same one apparently - but you may know better than me...
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Ellis was appointed a director of Liberty in September...
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This is why we had essential maintenance on the site today. We wanted everything to run smooth because of what was happening in the background... Thanks to bmck as always...
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Apparently this will be front page news tomorrow... Craig Whyte the name - along with our old chum Ellis and possibly backed by the Russian fella Vladimir Antonov is the rumour. Craig Whyte is the principle shareholder of investment vehicle Liberty Capital and has apparently been closely involved in protracted negotiations with representatives of the club. His impressive financial background and turnaround specialist knowledge are seen as valuable virtues by Sir David Murray as the current owner looks to sell his 91% stake in the club. More to follow - keep an eye on the front pages tomorrow!
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Now, that is worth reading... Have it Graham!
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The (usually) black guys who try and sell you cheap watches/jewellry etc on foreign streets....
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http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3231766/Ill-be-Walts-Oscar-winner.html Honduran guy on FM forum that I use suggests the guy is a fine player and that the interest is genuine. Can't so I know anything about him but hopefully we are interested in adding players to the squad.
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There's no need for 7 subs anyway for the most part so it's a non-issue if we just name 5 or 6 IMO. However, we do lack depth and are only another injury or two away from increased pressure on an already thin squad. For example if Bougherra doesn't make it for Saturday's match then that will mean a back 4 of: :rf: :kb: :sw: OK, that is still capable enough but we really need Webster fit and available for such matches. Especially when up against in-form players such as Sammon or even worse, the Man Utd strike-force. That's not even mentioning the fact Whittaker and Broadfoot are both suffering from knocks and the latter requires surgery.
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I think it was a throwaway comment meant in jest from Jeff but it is certainly one he should have saved for the after-dinner circuit as it's rather crass as opposed to overtly racist. To be honest, I'm finding his and Leggat's blogs a bit tiresome of late. Yes, they can be enjoyable (and I'm glad they exist) but sometimes less is more.
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