Crouchy says his piece

[Danny 0]

The cowards answer.

 

I could easily have given you a direct response but I didn't see what Boyd has to do with a thread about Lafferty in the context you're banging on about.

 

If you can tell me why you're trying to whore an ex player irrelevantly in a thread about a current one, by all means be my guest.

 

btw, isn't 'coward' a bit melodramatic for a message board when people are usually accused of being keyboard hardmen?

[Gazza_8 233]

I could easily have given you a direct response but I didn't see what Boyd has to do with a thread about Lafferty in the context you're banging on about.

 

If you can tell me why you're trying to whore an ex player irrelevantly in a thread about a current one, by all means be my guest.

 

btw, isn't 'coward' a bit melodramatic for a message board when people are usually accused of being keyboard hardmen?

 

:robbo:

 

Wind it up mate.

 

I'm simply stating the facts about Boyd. I'm sure, in this forum and others too, that other players have been mentioned in a thread where the subject is another player. I doubt I've broken any internet thread laws, however, when at work tomorrow I'll check to see if there's a statute law that covers it.

 

I don't think I'm the first and I certainly doubt I'll be the last.

 

BTW, I don't understand why you want to "whore" a player who is constantly shite for us. Sorry, I'll rephrase that......I don't understand why you want to "whore" a player who plays one good game ot of about 15.

 

PS I don't recall Zinedine Zidane or Materazzi being part of this thread?

[Super_Ally 0]

You can tell someone's lost the plot when they're comparing Lafferty to Zidane.

[Guest Flying Hippo]

You can tell someone's lost the plot when they're comparing Lafferty to Zidane.

 

Chalk and cheese

 

Zizou hasnae had a head of hair like Crouchy's since he was 5 years old

[craig 5,195]

No matter how many millions you get, occasionally you'll be a flamin' galaaaahr and react. Or are you telling me Zinedine Zidane did NOT headbut Materazzi (And that had by no means been the first hot head moment in his career either, and he's regarded as one of the greatest ever).

 

Footballers are still human.

 

 

 

No he's not, he's never cost us a single point, victory or anything. If he was a liability, we'd have paid for his moments by now.

 

 

 

I wouldn't have him at LM full stop.

 

 

 

I've been promoting rotation for a long time, so I wouldn't say I want this guy over that guy all the time - it depends on the game and the circumstance. And we have the options up front that all our players are important and should be used wisely. And for that I trust Walter Smith - and if he deems Jelavic or Fleck before Lafferty or vice versa, I'll trust him on it.

 

 

 

Disagree. None of our players are expendable.

 

This has to come from an unabashed, unashamed Lafferty supporter. Undoubtedly.

 

I have had a couple of drinks but let me try to respond as well as I can in same order :

 

1. Show me where in ANY of my responses that I suggested that Lafferty did not react. Show me where I suggested that Zidane did not react. You can't. Simple. Now, if we can actually get to the facts.... he reacted. He shouldnt have. Zidane acted, he shouldnt have. It is part and parcel of the game that you will get wound up either by words or actions - it is also expected that as a PROFESSIONAL that you do not react to the provocation. I couldnt give a shit whether it is human nature or not - it is, IMO, part of being a professional NOT to react.

 

Yes, players ARE human. But part of being a professional is NOT reacting. It is the profession and part of that is NOT reacting. You may agree, may not - but that is how it is.

 

Not a liability.... WRONG. The fact that he has not cost us a point does not make him "not a liability" - by definition a liability is a future payment that needs to be made in all probability. Lafferty not having cost us a point is, undoubtedly, because of good fortune more than anything else. McBride was. IMO, unlucky to be sent off on Sunday whilst, again IMO, Lafferty very much deserved his red - had the ref reacted the way he should have (admittedly IMO - and it would be VERY churlish of any of us to suggest that McBride deserved to go whilst Lafferty didnt) then we would have been down to 10 whilst they had 11 - and we were playing shite 11v11 as it was - then you can easily see that it is fortuitous that we didnt play half the game a man down.

 

The Aberdeen incident - so he actually gained, or assisted in gaining, us 3 points there - are you proud of that ? I for one am embarrassed that he felt the need.

 

the Tims game - his lunge at Hinkel could have ended in red - not saying it SHOULD have, but it could have.

 

His rashness has, thankfully, not cost us points - but to suggest that he is not a liability simply because it hasnt yet cost us points is folly. Absolute folly.

 

He IS a liability and to suggest otherwise is absolutely naive. We have had liabilities before and we will again - but with our squad as small as it is we could very well be doing without any right now.

 

You wouldnt have him at LM, full stop. Good. Neither would I. But given that I would also have Miller, Jelavic, Beattie, Naismith and Fleck up front before I had him there..... so do we really need him given we wouldnt play him LM and there are FIVE players probably ahead of him up front ?

 

Tell me.. serious question... just what has he actually brought to this Rangers team over his two year tenure that suggests we should stand by him ?

 

I agree, I trust Walter - funny that Walter deemed that he should purchase Beattie and Jelavic so that, from my perspective, he would play them as a rotated 3some with Miller..... leaving Lafferty as.... the odd man out up front.... and we wouldnt play him at LM.....surely then that means he is expendable ???

 

One thing is for sure - with Miller, Jelavic, Beattie, Weiss, Naismith, Fleck all at the club the chances of Lafferty getting back in the team anytime soon after his suspension will possibly limited - with no tears from me - because in his two years he has VERY infrequently proven his worth and all too frequently shown his immature, selfish (he basically admits this himself...) side.

 

I re-iterate - I, for one, regardless of the fact that we have such a small squad, quite honestly wouldnt blink an eye if Kyle Lafferty left tomorrow. He hasnt brought much to the team as it is, he has had more than enough chances and not heeded them, so why should we think all of a sudden he will change ??

 

We will have to agree to disagree - of all of our squad, Kyle Lafferty is one player that I think is expendable for more than one reason. 1) he hasnt proven his worth and 2) he is a liability. Both of those, given our financial predicament, are enough for me to say... Bye bye Kyle.

 

Quite simply..... Enough is enough.

[Gribz 743]

Good post for someone who has been drinking Craig

 

I can see why Lafferty reacted, many people would react by having the ball blasted at you, its just footballers are in the spotlight and are supposed to be non-human at times. However as players get older and more experienced then not reacting to things get easier but Lafferty has proved he hasnt grown up yet.

[maineflyer 0]

Tell me.. serious question... just what has he actually brought to this Rangers team over his two year tenure .......

 

Occasional blatant cheating, routine embarrassment, continual indiscipline, little in the way of what he's actually supposed to deliver ..... can't blame him for taking on the job but would we miss his contribution? ..... not a chance.

[Danny 0]

Good post for someone who has been drinking Craig

 

I can see why Lafferty reacted, many people would react by having the ball blasted at you, its just footballers are in the spotlight and are supposed to be non-human at times. However as players get older and more experienced then not reacting to things get easier but Lafferty has proved he hasnt grown up yet.

 

Well he's only 22. Rooney took till 26 before he started to mentally mature, and even then he's still an idiot at times.

[Guest Flying Hippo]

Well he's only 22. Rooney took till 26 before he started to mentally mature, and even then he's still an idiot at times.

 

Rooney is only 24 now

[Danny 0]

You can tell someone's lost the plot when they're comparing Lafferty to Zidane.

 

Not quite what I was doing and you know it.