ian1964 10,419 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Amsterdam's mayor blames Ajax hooligans for starting violent clashes with Celtic fans ahead of Champions League match 4 Dec 2013 07:48 MAYOR Eberhard van der Laan said Celtic fans had been provoked - but insisted some supporters then dished out "excessive violence" to plainclothes police officers. AMSTERDAM'S mayor has blamed Ajax hooligans for starting the violence that erupted ahead of Celtic’s Champions League match. A report by the city’s police force said the rioting in Dam Square was triggered when three Ajax supporters stole a flag from Hoops fans. Mayor Eberhard van der Laan said the incident – and a “hit-and-run” raid on a bar packed with travelling supporters the night before – were the main spurs for the outbreak of violence on November 6. Read the full letter here In a letter to the city council, he wrote: “I interpret this hooligan behaviour as possibly the most important cause for the emergence of disorder between the Celtic supporters and the Amsterdam police at Dam Square.” He said Celtic fans had been provoked – but some then dished out “excessive violence” to plainclothes Dutch police. Van der Laan added: “I note that the agents were met with excessive violence and no fewer than seven were injured. For a short time, the agents no longer felt safe. They must and are expected to react proportionately in such a situation.” Fans’ group the Celtic Trust condemned the mayor’s conclusions as “a cover-up of the brutal and criminal behaviour of the Dutch police” and said they would “work to clear their good names”. Five fans are appealing against prison sentences handed down in Amsterdam for using violence against police. They claim undercover officers who arrested them failed to identify themselves and have accused police of brutality. Celtic have sent 25 complaints by fans to a Dutch lawyer who is considering pressing charges against police. Videos posted on social media showed one fan, Padraig Mullen, being dragged to the ground and kneed by a police officer in plain clothes, and others being hit with batons. Mullen, 28, and Damian Dobbin, 28, from Hamilton, were sentenced to two months in jail. Thomas Kennedy, 30, and Andy Vance, 21, got six weeks and Joseph McPherson, 20, a one-month term. All have been released and returned home pending an appeal. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/amsterdams-mayor-blames-ajax-hooligans-2881003 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We have so many of the same type of mitigation when our fans are involved in trouble, but we don't have anything like the same press coverage. They are even still feeling sorry for Franco's fascist police force which in a decent society would be an oxymoron. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,419 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 CELTIC fans have claimed that a report into the violence in Amsterdam before a Champions League tie is a whitewash as no blame has been apportioned to Dutch police.In the report, the Mayor of Amsterdam blamed Ajax *hooligans for stirring the violence that erupted in the capital last month.The city's police force said the Dam Square rioting was *triggered when three Ajax supporters stole a flag from a group of Celtic fans.City mayor Eberhard van der Laan said that incident, and a 'hit-and-run' raid on a bar packed with travelling fans the night before, were the main spur for the violence on November 6. In a letter to the city council he wrote: "I interpret this hooligan behaviour as possibly the most important cause for the *emergence of disorder between the Celtic supporters and the Amsterdam police at Dam Square."Five Celtic fans are appealing against prison sentences for using violence against police. They say the officers who arrested them failed to identify themselves and accused the police of brutality. Celtic have submitted a dossier of 25 complaints by fans to a Dutch lawyer who is deciding whether to press charges against police.Mr Van der Laan asked police to submit a report to the council on the half-hour on Dam Square that led to the arrest of 28 Celtic fans and 17 Ajax supporters. It said Celtic fans had been in Dam Square since the morning and were drinking heavily, but had been on good terms with the police.Police said the flashpoint came when the three Ajax fans snatched the flag and ran off. As police tried to arrest the Ajax fans they came under attack from travelling supporters, according to the report by police chief Jan Pronker.The report said: "The challenging attitude and violence on the part of the Celtic fans towards the police was unexpected in terms of its origin, development and scale. This did not conform to the 'good reputation' of these supporters."The mayor said "all necessary measures were taken by police in their preparations and focussed on preventing escalation". Jeanette Findlay of fans' group Celtic Trust said: "This letter, and the 'investigation' on which it is based, is no more than a cover-up of the brutal and criminal behaviour of the Dutch police."We find it incredible the Dutch authorities have allowed the police to investigate themselves in this matter and even more incredible that their elected representatives find this letter acceptable. We continue to protest the innocence of our fans who did not receive a trial as we would understand it."We hope there will be criminal charges brought against members of the Dutch police and compensation received for brutal treatment meted out to numerous Celtic supporters on that night."Padraig Mullen, 28, and 23-year-old Damian Dobbin, from Hamilton, received jail sentences of two months at the District Court in Amsterdam on November 22.Thomas Kennedy, 30, and Andy Vance, 21, were sentenced to six weeks and Joseph McPherson, 20, were given a one-month sentence. All were released and returned home pending an appeal. A sixth man, John Quigley, was acquitted. Herald 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juancornetto 1 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Is it so hard just to take some responsibility for your fans actions? This constant persecution cry is tiresome now, thankfully the rest of the world don't fall for it anymore. Celtic and it's fans are being exposed for the rancid filth that they are with every passing incident. Maybe at some point the Scottish media will find the balls to report them as such soon...? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,254 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ahem ... what? Some Ajax sneak-thiefs (now termed as "Hooligans") are to be blamed that the Yahoos laid into policemen and bricking that tram? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Liewell says that these people who have embarrassed the club will be identified and banned. Padraig Mullen was treated to a private tour of the piggery yesterday. ( There is a picture to go with this caption from RM but I can't get the picture to copy) 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ahem ... what? Some Ajax sneak-thiefs (now termed as "Hooligans") are to be blamed that the Yahoos laid into policemen and bricking that tram? One couldn't make this up, eh. I wonder how much this character was paid to spout such bile. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I find the reports on the Ajax guys hard to believe - apparently they stole a "Scottish flag". Hmm... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,254 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This is the chap Lawwell will ban from the Scumhut from ... well ... yes ... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This is the chap Lawwell will ban from the Scumhut from ... well ... yes ... Some of the bile he has posted on his twitter is disgusting. Make no mistake, this lad is a bigot, a traitor to his country and all round horrible c*nt. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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