calscot 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ...who basically allowed himself to be forced off the very Board that he was in charge of!!!! To paraphrase McCoist..."He walked away" Don't think that's fair to the guy. I have no idea whether I want him on the board due to what happened when he was part of it, but he was obviously forced off and was continually outvoted when he wanted financial prudence. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Don't think that's fair to the guy. I have no idea whether I want him on the board due to what happened when he was part of it, but he was obviously forced off and was continually outvoted when he wanted financial prudence. I really can't see either of the Murrays getting back in. I think folk have too many concerns surrounding their previous stints etc. The other 2 guys, I know nothing about. Malcolm Murray has had his chance and for whatever reasons, failed to impress or follow through on his initial promises of corporate governance - once bitten, twice shy etc etc. Same with Paul Murray...based on known fact, he has talked a good game in the past, but never produced the final goods for whatever reason. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Smart sure wasnt nor was ian harte. To quote mm every vote was just me and walter being outvoted. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think shareholders will have a differing view to fans on the murrays previous stints. But tge fans will swing this vote so who knows. If only the fan shareholders realised their power in this. But in reality most wont even vote. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,150 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think MM is quite disingenuous when he talks about his time on the board. Understand he may have been outvoted from time to time but if that was the case he should have resigned earlier and raised the issue quicker. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think MM is quite disingenuous when he talks about his time on the board. Understand he may have been outvoted from time to time but if that was the case he should have resigned earlier and raised the issue quicker. It would appear that integrity self respect and candor have been strangers since the days of the boards of david murray. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,150 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It would appear that integrity self respect and candor have been strangers since the days of the boards of david murray. Some would say they're still missing now... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Some would say they're still missing now... When all is said and done it doesn't matter what the likes of us say, the big boys the major shareholders will decide the events to come, let's just hope everyone accepts the democratic outcome and we can move on. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,150 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 When all is said and done it doesn't matter what the likes of us say, the big boys the major shareholders will decide the events to come, let's just hope everyone accepts the democratic outcome and we can move on. No, I think it does indeed matter what the fans think. Ultimately we may be powerless but that shouldn't make our opinion any less worthy or valid. You spoke about certain virtues and there's no doubt they are missing from some club employees. That's well worth highlighting - more so when we consider the constitution the reqs released the other day. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 No, I think it does indeed matter what the fans think. Ultimately we may be powerless but that shouldn't make our opinion any less worthy or valid. You spoke about certain virtues and there's no doubt they are missing from some club employees. That's well worth highlighting - more so when we consider the constitution the reqs released the other day. The only people who think what the fans think matters are the fans, in the real world the real power brokers know they have a captive customer base, they are not going to invest money and have someone else tell them how that investment is going to be utilised hence ring fencing is a fanciful dream. We see ourselves as what we are fans the corporate people see us as customers, captive ones and I don't see anything that is going to change the pecking order, unless of course people intend to commit suicide by boycotting the one innocent party, that being Rangers FC. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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