simplythebest 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 C'mon. They didnt celebrate the death of an old woman. It was more the symbolic passing of her ideals and the scars they left on our country Yet I keep hearing that her ideals dominate politics these days anyway 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan99 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Yet I keep hearing that her ideals dominate politics these days anyway Aye, and look how great it's going. She wasn't all bad for Britain, as a whole, but she treated Scotland like a piece of shite on her shoe. Much the same as most tory politicians. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 There has to be a way RPB of directing and managing our political influence without as Andy puts it "cosying up" to one particular party. Im not advocating jumping into bed with them in such a way as there is clear bias towards our club' date=' or we find ourselves the recipients of favourable loans etc - but at least it would be nice if some of our MP's had put their heads above the parapet to remind the disciples of the "bloodfest" that we live in a country where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty - not the other way round. And if the clear misdirection by HMRC had caused a clamour for an official enquiry.[/quote'] There's no easy answer to this, that's for sure. Let's not kid ourselves -The Scottish Labour Party in Glasgow and the West of Scotland, is little more than the political wing of Celtic FC and the only opponent able to take them on and expose their corruption, the SNP, is a party that the majority of our fans don't like and don't support. The SNP, for their part, would be loathe to be seen to align themselves so closely with a club and fanbase which is perceived as pro-union. That means that in reality, we have to act alone if we want to mobilise politically. However, politics, like football, can be tribal and many people will associate themselves with a political party in much the same way as they do a football club and nothing that party does or says will change the way they vote. Consequently, if we as a support and a club 'take on' Labour, we'd be putting our Labour voting fans (probably the majority of our support) in an impossible position. We would need the fan groups to put together a dedicated, non politically aligned campaign group, of professional people who are able to address any attack on our club, rationally and analytically and to forensically investigate and highlight and perceived wrongdoing on the part of the enemies of our club. Clearly it will be a cold day in hell before Rangers ever get round to acting in a professional and organised manner, so it is up to the fan groups to do it for ourselves. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 C'mon. They didnt celebrate the death of an old woman. It was more the symbolic passing of her ideals and the scars they left on our country ??? Had a look at Downing Street recently, bud? Thatcherism is alive and kicking, thank you very much. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I don't think about it to be honest. If that's how people want to express then that's their perogative tbh. Supporting Rangets has no bearing on how I view politics and living in Scotland etc. Quite so. Anybody who allows their political ideology to be determined by a football club is, quite frankly, an idiot whose every utterance on matters political can be safely ignored. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Rebo's Big Blue Nose 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 ??? Had a look at Downing Street recently, bud? Thatcherism is alive and kicking, thank you very much. Agreed RPB. My reply was worded poorly. I was referring to the symbolic passing of the architect of these ideals. I hear you with regards No. 10. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Rebo's Big Blue Nose 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Quite so. Anybody who allows their political ideology to be determined by a football club is, quite frankly, an idiot whose every utterance on matters political can be safely ignored. Agree 100% dude 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Quite so. Anybody who allows their political ideology to be determined by a football club is, quite frankly, an idiot whose every utterance on matters political can be safely ignored. Good thing I wasn't suggesting that 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchorman 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I've only been valid to vote in one election in my life You must have done something really bad to be in Barlinnie that long mate 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan99 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You must have done something really bad to be in Barlinnie that long mate He was Green's accountant. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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