Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I think you will find that both Jo Venglos and Billy McNeill have poorer records in that particular category. McLeish appears to be very adept at going into a struggling club and getting huge improvement from the existing squad of players, only to crash and burn after the initial success. Finishing third in a two-horse race was staggering. Venglos - 32.54% McNeill - 21.95% Eck - 21.43% As I say, he is the worst manager in that particular's club's history. Yet some champion for him. McLeish is very adept at...absolutely nothing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Venglos - 32.54%McNeill - 21.95% Eck - 21.43% As I say, he is the worst manager in that particular's club's history. Yet some champion for him. McLeish is very adept at...absolutely nothing. http://astonvillacentral.com/manager-rankr/ 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 That is premiership only. I am looking at all games as all managers should be examined. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 That is premiership only. I am looking at all games as all managers should be examined. Firstly, it's not Premiership only, it goes right back to 1945. As has been explained on that site, it is unfair to include domestic cup/European games. For example, how could a defeat by Real Madrid be comparable to a win over Rochdale? If managers should be examined on ALL games, why do you only use the win % stats to make your point? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 We really are so supportive of people who do their best for our club. McCleish lost me when he ridiculed Craig Moore in the press for playing for Australia. He then stripped him of the captaincy but then raced him back into the team for a European game dropping ( Was it Scott Nesbitt?) his replacement who had played excellently in Moore's absence. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 We really are so supportive of people who do their best for our club. McCleish lost me when he ridiculed Craig Moore in the press for playing for Australia. He then stripped him of the captaincy but then raced him back into the team for a European game dropping ( Was it Scott Nesbitt?) his replacement who had played excellently in Moore's absence. Certainly wouldn't have been Nisbet Pete, he finished playing years before McLeish came to Rangers. Maybe Scott Wilson. Defenders from McLeish era off the top of my head (I was going to loads of games in his earlier days) many of which was signed by Eck: Ricksen Moore Amoruso Konterman M Ball Zurab Khizananishvili, S Wilson Mo Ross T Vidmar D Adamczuk B Malcolm K Muscat J Bonnessil D Eggen P Vanoli H Berg F De Boer M Andrews J Boumsong Gregory Vignal Soti Kyrgiakos Oliver Bernard JP Fan-Fan Ian Murray Jay Rodriguez. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 But I tend to agree with SBS on McLeish, I think he is a fantastic motivator who sparks life into dressing rooms that are down which gets a reaction for a while but his football tactics are not there. He played Arveladze wide too often. He has a mixed bag when signing players, he signed some stinkers but he also signed Boumsong who was awesome for 1 year then we got a good payment, and of course his best signing - Dado Prso! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 There is no defending mediocrity like Big Eck. Yes he won trophies but my goodness his brand of football and misuse of very good players was appalling. Then there was finishing 3rd with the best squad in the country. Hopeless. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 There is no defending mediocrity like Big Eck. Yes he won trophies but my goodness his brand of football and misuse of very good players was appalling. Then there was finishing 3rd with the best squad in the country. Hopeless. Yes 3rd in a 2 team league said it all. Ok Hearts did well that season but after Burley went they lost it. McLeish was lucky he had so many impact players. Lovenkrands could do something out of nothing, De Boer was world Class, Prso is in the Ledley King mould where he had a dodgy knee but was still head and shoulders above the rest. Hartson couldn't take pens 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltersgotstyle 297 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 All I can say positive about McLeish is he seems a top guy. Sadly though he just doesn't cut it as a manager for me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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