BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Just listening to a radio debate about it now. To be considered as the best ever then he does need to do it at the World Cup IMO, that is still the highest level. When he plays at Barca he is part of a top quality team with great players all around him. Maradona went to Napoli and won them 2 titles - and Napoli weren't the best in the country. Its similar to Messi going to a team like Spurs or Everton and winning the title. I think that's a very good point which I heard made by the BBC panel as well. I don't think Messi was fit; if he was, he certainly didn't raise a leg, strolled around most of the time, whilst all others around him were covering far more distance. IMHO Muller for Germany and Robben for Holland contributed far more to their teams than Messi. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 James Rodriguez for me. Robben took it away a little with his diving about the place Certainly Rodriguez was the best "rising star". Of course, if Peralta (the real one) had been there......... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Messi getting player of the tournament is a joke. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Player of the tournament is close between a few. Rodriguez is certainly in with a shout and Robben for most of it was up there. Muller would be the other contender for me. Teams like Costa Rica, Chile, Algeria, Colombia and the USA deserve a mention for all punching above their weight. The USA could become a top footballing nation with the resources they have. Belgium were probably the disappointing team. Arrived with much promise and a top squad on paper but didn't impress. Italy were also poor but like Brazil its a poor period for the Italians with no real world class players. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Player of the tournament is close between a few. Rodriguez is certainly in with a shout and Robben for most of it was up there. Muller would be the other contender for me. Teams like Costa Rica, Chile, Algeria, Colombia and the USA deserve a mention for all punching above their weight. The USA could become a top footballing nation with the resources they have. Belgium were probably the disappointing team. Arrived with much promise and a top squad on paper but didn't impress. Italy were also poor but like Brazil its a poor period for the Italians with no real world class players. Italy are such a shadow of their former selves and so bereft of talent that they could only scrape a lucky 1-0 win against the group minnows in their opening game. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Italy are such a shadow of their former selves and so bereft of talent that they could only scrape a lucky 1-0 win against the group minnows in their opening game. Interesting times for a number of nations. Italy and Brazil need to bring through some world class players again to compete. Spains reaction and response will be interesting. From dominating everything for 6 years to a 'no-show', we'll see in the Euro's whether it was a blip or the team has run its course. Belgium and Switzerland are coming on but the Euro's are going to come with expectations especially playing in nearby France which should suit them. Portugal are falling away and once Ronaldo gets to the other side of 30 and slows down Portugal will be very average. England need to get a manager in who isn't afraid to drop players. Bringing youngsters to a tournament is the easy part, playing them and playing them to their strengths is another thing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,122 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 it was a decent tournament to watch far better than the crap of south Africa four years ago and not one of them blinkin horns to listen to either . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Buffon, Chiellini, De Rossi and Pirlo are all world class. Regarding Messi in this tournament, he had 4 goals, 1 assist, 4 man of the matches, most chances created, most interceptions as an attacker, most successful dribbles, most accurate through balls and took his team to the final, losing in extra time. He wasn't at his best but he still had a pretty decent world cup and much better than that prima donna Ronaldo who seems to not show up on the big occasion far too much to be worthy of the Ballon D'or. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Buffon, Chiellini, De Rossi and Pirlo are all world class. Regarding Messi in this tournament, he had 4 goals, 1 assist, 4 man of the matches, most chances created, most interceptions as an attacker, most successful dribbles, most accurate through balls and took his team to the final, losing in extra time. He wasn't at his best but he still had a pretty decent world cup and much better than that prima donna Ronaldo who seems to not show up on the big occasion far too much to be worthy of the Ballon D'or. What were Robben's comparable stats? Any other contenders on that basis, just asking. On the FIFA site Robben has a higher CASTROL rating but it doesn't cover all the categories you list, where did you get those stats? Kroos got the highest Castrol rating followed by Robben, De Vrij, Hummels and Muller (who covered the most distance 83957 m!) http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/index.html 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 A very well deserved victory for the Germans and their goalkeeper Manuel Neuer was probably my player of the tournament. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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