The Real PapaBear 0 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11453007/Jim-McColl-drops-support-for-Scottish-independence.html seems he's dropped Independence. but calls for full fiscal autonomy for Scotland http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-32140640 If you believe the state media BBC and the Tory supporting Telegraph's published answer to an unpublished question - but then why would anyone ever believe anything they say? Both pillars of the same British establishment that threw us to the dogs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 cant invest but why can he not give? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Why would anyone do that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 His vision of big capitalists owning about 1/3, fans the same, and assorted smaller investors the rest, would mean the capitalists would always hold sway. We need fan ownership 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I don't think we can solely blame Jim McColl for not rescuing the club from Whyte then Greenco/Ashley raping. He was never on our board pre admin, some of the new board (or potential new board) members were. There was a collective failing of nearly everyone, and i include fans and fans groups, to get some cohesive thinking together. It was like everyone was in a state of shock and paralysis. Of course other than Whyte and then Greenco/Ashley who were informed and ahead of the game. Just saying throwing money at the then situation, would have cured all our ills. Is being naive imo, We like to say "We don't do walking away" but i think many did, and not just walked away but actually bolted, For fear of being tarred in connection with the Rangers going down. Even now today we can't agree why, how and who is to blame for it all. I say SDM was to blame, others say the bank forced his hand, other point ot Whyte. My point being there is so much myth, lies and revisionism of it all, that trying to get to the truth is neigh impossible. But somehow for all that we can criticize with some authority, one man who wasn't involved at any level in the Rangers downfall . Who attempted several rescue packages,using his own money and may want to help our club in the future. It comes across to me that some of the support seem ungrateful. We are certainly a hard crowd to please at times. It's wrong and we should not do it imo. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue 0 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 He could have bought us ten times over from the spare cash in his back pocket. He had/has no intention of putting proper money into Rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 He had/has no intention of putting proper money into Rangers. Let's at least try to be fair here. You don't know what Jim McColl's intentions were, are, or will be and neither do the rest of us! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Let's at least try to be fair here. You don't know what Jim McColl's intentions were, are, or will be and neither do the rest of us! We can all come to our own conclusions though 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 We can all come to our own conclusions though Yes, including wrong conclusions again, again & again..... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I don't think we can solely blame Jim McColl for not rescuing the club from Whyte then Greenco/Ashley raping. He was never on our board pre admin, some of the new board (or potential new board) members were. There was a collective failing of nearly everyone, and i include fans and fans groups, to get some cohesive thinking together. It was like everyone was in a state of shock and paralysis. Of course other than Whyte and then Greenco/Ashley who were informed and ahead of the game. Just saying throwing money at the then situation, would have cured all our ills. Is being naive imo, We like to say "We don't do walking away" but i think many did, and not just walked away but actually bolted, For fear of being tarred in connection with the Rangers going down. Even now today we can't agree why, how and who is to blame for it all. I say SDM was to blame, others say the bank forced his hand, other point ot Whyte. My point being there is so much myth, lies and revisionism of it all, that trying to get to the truth is neigh impossible. But somehow for all that we can criticize with some authority, one man who wasn't involved at any level in the Rangers downfall . Who attempted several rescue packages,using his own money and may want to help our club in the future. It comes across to me that some of the support seem ungrateful. We are certainly a hard crowd to please at times. It's wrong and we should not do it imo. There's a lot of good points there. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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