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Arsenal were appalling. The fans rightly singing "your not fit to wear the shirt". It said it all when the ball went into the crowd and didn't give their own player - Bellerin - the ball back. Not one Arsenal player got more than a 4 / 10.

 

Why doesn't Wenger want to change his system when he needs a goal and cant take Ozil off. It was obvious what he needed to do at half time. He should have taken Xhaka and Ozil off and put Ox and Giroud on then switch to a 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-2 with Sanchez playing off Giroud in Ozils position.

 

Elneny

 

Walcott Ox-Chamberlain Sanchez Welbeck

 

Giroud

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Arsenal played a lot of football in front of the Palace defence. Palace, indeed any Allardyce team, will take that all day, and all night. Arsenal had insufficient creativity and imagination, and thus could not break down a resolute defence, for which the loanee Sakho stood out.

 

The Arsenal 'star' men, Sanchez and Ozil were ineffective, and the most impressive attacker on show was Zaha, who showed pace, trickery, determination, and had enough strength to bully Arsenal's often timid defenders.

 

The Palace team deserves bucketsful of credit for their performance. Alas, this will be swamped by acres of prose regarding the poverty of Arsenal's performance, and of Arsene's £20K per diem dilemma.

 

The Palace crowd were terrific - what an atmosphere. So well done to them, also.

 

As a footnote, re: Wenger, I find it interesting to note that, contrary to his early successful, trophy laden, years, when he was portrayed as a well rounded man of intellectual substance , an economist to trade, but/and a connoisseur of Japanese poetry and theatre, a litterateur, and a linguist, it is now suggested that his life is football, that little of value exists for him beyond it, and that this amour fou is the reason he refuses to go quietly into that Gunnerless night.

Cynically, I think that the money may have something to do with it.

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Jimmy McGrory managed Celtic for 20 years!

 

He didn't have a Champions League qualification to worry about obviously. Nevertheless he still had bread and butter domestic leagues and cups to win.

 

His record during his time as manager was:

 

League Champions: 1

 

Scottish Cup: 2

 

League Cup: 2

 

God knows why they put up with him for so long! In his playing days he was some player though I'm told.

 

What is Wenger's record with Arsenal in comparison to McGrory at Celtic?

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Will throw these in early as Im offski for the weekend. Was going to wait and copy Scotts predictions.

 

Saturday

Tottenham 3-0 Bournemouth

Crystal Palace 1-1 Leicester

Everton 2-0 Burnley

Stoke 2-0 Hull

Sunderland 0-1 West Ham

Watford 2-2 Swansea

Southampton 1-1 Man City

 

Sunday

West Brom 1-1 Liverpool

Man Utd 2-2 Chelsea

 

Monday

Middlesbrough 0-4 Arsenal

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Saturday

Tottenham 3-0 Bournemouth

Crystal Palace 2-1 Leicester

Everton 3-0 Burnley

Stoke 2-0 Hull

Sunderland 0-2 West Ham

Watford 2-0 Swansea

Southampton 1-3 Man City

 

Sunday

West Brom 1-3 Liverpool

Man Utd 2-1 Chelsea

 

Monday

Middlesbrough 2-0 Arsenal

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