Dave King on big tax case.

[Little General 80]

The Celtic board issued a statement agitating for a re-opening and reversal of the decisions previously made when, in fact, nothing has changed. It is disappointing that they have attempted to influence the footballing authorities to alter its historic football honours by calling on administrators and lawyers to achieve off the pitch what its teams failed to do on the pitch.

 

you can see them now foaming at the mouth:champs:

[StuGers 477]

Tom "English" first to bite. Get it right up you Tom.

[boabie 230]

STV news there had an interview with some mank team coach at Glasgow Airport. It got around pretty quickly to title-stripping.

"We're aware of it but it's not something we really talk about. Let other teams do what they want."

Tell your own board that ya fud.

[boabie 230]

Meanwhile on Kiddyfiddler Street forum ----

 

" Tony-Montana 3 minutes ago Post #6541 [Tweet]

Joined: 23 June 2007

 

Bad idea bringing Celtic into it. Lawwell will destroy him. "

 

Aye, maybe King should just have sat back and allowed the sellik board to call us cheats.

Edited July 7, 2017 by boabie

[craig 5,199]

Meanwhile on Kiddyfiddler Street forum ----

 

" Tony-Montana 3 minutes ago Post #6541 [Tweet]

Joined: 23 June 2007

 

Bad idea bringing Celtic into it. Lawwell will destroy him. "

 

Aye, maybe King should just have sat back and allowed the sellik board to call us cheats.

 

Lawwell won't destroy King at all. Lawwell gets an easy ride of it, and has certainly had an easy ride from RFC over the last few years because our custodians have "allegedly" been more focused on feasting on our carcass. I doubt King will stand for it - and I'm more than sure that King has a ruthless streak that would more than match Lawwell.

 

They are complete fannies.

 

"Bad idea bringing Celtic into it" - Ummmm, Tony ya fool.... Celtic brought it up in the first instance you muppet.

[pete 2,499]

Lawwell won't destroy King at all. Lawwell gets an easy ride of it, and has certainly had an easy ride from RFC over the last few years because our custodians have "allegedly" been more focused on feasting on our carcass. I doubt King will stand for it - and I'm more than sure that King has a ruthless streak that would more than match Lawwell.

 

They are complete fannies.

 

"Bad idea bringing Celtic into it" - Ummmm, Tony ya fool.... Celtic brought it up in the first instance you muppet.

 

Don't insult muppets please.

[Son Of The Somme 0]

How on earth can you be preached to on morality from a club who is entrenched in the most hineous of crimes.

 

Me and many people firmly believe there was a peadophile ring abusing and raping children at Bheast FC .

These very same people, believe this appalling entity covered up the abuse of young children, and did not go to the police over these vhile crimes.

They, and their uneducated mhanky smelling bhastard support should hang their heads in shame and crawl back under the rock they came from.

 

Have they no shame?

 

Bheast FC then

Bheast FC now

Bheast FC forever

Edited July 7, 2017 by Son Of The Somme

[union 0]

any truth in this from stv grant ?

 

[SteveC 150]

you can see them now foaming at the mouth:champs:

 

I'm afraid it is not going as well as that at all. King's fine words today are more than a little punctured by his words in 2012 which are being plastered on every board and forum imaginable as well as the MSM:

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dave-king-launches-astonishing-defence-6823319

 

DAVE KING last night threatened to haul the rest of Scottish football into court if they try to strip Rangers of their titles.

 

The Ibrox chairman fired a stern warning to the SFA and SPFL that he’ll do whatever it takes to defend the club’s history.

 

And he also vowed to come after other clubs and will seek to rewrite their history – if the game’s bosses choose to open this can of worms.

 

Record Sport understands that would put Hearts in the firing line, as Gers would attempt to have their Scottish Cup Final wins over Gretna in 2006 and Hibs in 2012 wiped off the history books, using the argument that they too claimed success based on a regime of reckless spending that forced the club into administration.

 

The prospect of Hearts’ greatest derby result – the 5-1 Cup Final thrashing of Hibs – being erased from the records would horrify Jambos fans who still love nothing more than to rub their rivals noses in that scoreline.

 

It’s believed that Rangers are alarmed by the fact the SPFL Board held a conference call last Friday to discuss the ramifications of HMRC last week winning their appeal against a favourable verdict for Rangers in the big tax case, over their use of tax-avoiding Employee Benefit Trusts to pay players.

 

Twitter reaction to King's statement

 

Rangers Chairman Dave King speaks to the press at Ibrox

Rangers chairman Dave King (Image: SNS Group)

That ruling sparked renewed calls from many fans and former Celtic star Darren O’Dea for the Ibrox club to be stripped of their success during that period.

 

But now King has warned that any move to go back and rewrite history will have

far-reaching consequences for the rest of the game.

 

His statement, however, is in stark contrast to what he said back in 2012, which you can read below.

 

Yesterday he said: “It is disappointing that a debate has re-emerged around the subject of Rangers’ history.

 

“It must be especially frustrating for the supporters who again find individuals within the structures of Scottish football unfairly targeting the club.

 

“As the one individual who was a major shareholder and director throughout the period that gave rise to the HMRC dispute, and again find myself in a similar capacity, I believe I am uniquely positioned to make three important observations.

 

“First, irrespective of the final outcome of the tax appeal (which might take several more years) the football team had no advantage from any tax savings from the scheme put in place by the Murray Group.

 

“Throughout the period in question the shareholders were committed to providing funding to the club.

 

“The tax scheme may have reduced the need for shareholders to provide higher levels of funding so, as I have tried to make clear in the past, any advantage would have been to the company and its shareholders, not the team.

 

“Certain players may not have signed for the club without the perceived benefit of personal tax savings but there was no general advantage for the player squad, or the performance on the pitch.

 

“We would still have signed players of equal abilities if one or two had decided they didn’t want to sign under different financial circumstances.

 

 

“Secondly, Lord Nimmo Smith has fully and finally dealt with the legitimacy of the continuity of the club’s history. There is no more to be debated on that issue.

 

“Finally, it is extraordinary that representatives of other Scottish clubs – who admit the damage done to Scottish football by Rangers’ removal from the Premier League – should even wish to re-engage with this issue.

 

"It is time those individuals, who represent other clubs, recognise their legal and fiduciary responsibilities to their own clubs and shareholders rather than submit to the uninformed ramblings of a few outspoken fans to whom attacking Rangers is more important than the wellbeing of their own clubs.

 

“This is a misguided attempt (that will ultimately fail) to rewrite history and defeat Rangers off the park when their teams could not do so on the park at the time. The history of many other clubs would have to be rewritten if this illogical argument was to be consistently applied.

 

“Having reviewed documentation that has become available to me I believe that Rangers was harshly and, in some instances, unfairly treated in the period leading up to demotion from the Premier League

 

“However, that is now history and I have publicly stated, with the full support of the recently installed board, that we wish to put the past behind us and move on in partnership with all clubs in Scotland to improve and restore the image and quality of Scottish football. This will benefit all clubs.

 

“For the avoidance of doubt, however, I wish to make one point clear. If the history of our club comes under attack we will deal with it in the strongest manner possible and will hold to account those persons who have acted against their fiduciary responsibilities to their own clubs and to Scottish football.”

Another potentially damaging consequence of any legal action against the governing body could be the intervention of UEFA and FIFA, whose articles state that association decisions cannot be challenged in an

ordinary court.

 

Among the sanctions open to the power brokers is imposing sanctions on the association that could see all Scottish clubs banned from Europe and the national team banned from international competition.

 

FIFA have threatened such bans in the recent past, including in the case of FC Sion, who were thrown out of the Europa League for fielding ineligible players.

 

What King said three years ago..

 

DAVE King issued an impassioned defence of Rangers yesterday against the snipers he believes are trying to rewrite his club’s history.

 

King warned Scottish football if they go down the road of stripping Rangers of titles won in the EBT years he’ll go after them in court. The Ibrox chairman’s attack lit the blue touch paper but his statement is in stark contrast to an interview he gave the Daily Mail in 2012.

 

In the story, published before the initial verdict on the big tax case, King admitted that if Rangers lost then the club would have “probably gained some competitive

advantage” and would owe the “Scottish footballing public an apology”.

 

Here’s what he said in June 2012 just after the SPL ruled Rangers had a case to answer over the alleged use of dual contracts.

 

King said: “I think we should be sorry – and I certainly am sorry. We owe both the Rangers fans and the Scottish footballing public an apology. Some of the representations made have betrayed more of a victim status. But I think somebody needs to apologise.

 

“Clearly, that is not for Charles Green to do. But I am happy to say I believe we should be saying sorry and I think there is something to be sorry about.

 

“And as a former director when these things were going on, I am minded to do so. With regard to EBTs, I was on the board so I take some responsibility. And I follow the logic of the argument that if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage.

 

“I believe, on behalf of myself and most board members who were with me, we should apologise for that. The Murray Group might not say that because it might be tantamount to admitting it.

 

“But I am happy to say it as a director of the club. It is absolutely appropriate for the previous regime to be sorry.”

 

Insisting there was no deliberate attempt to gain a competitive advantage from the use of EBTs, King added: “No one on the board when I was there would have had any intention of gaining an advantage.

 

“But I can understand the perception out there now.

 

“And the way Rangers have treated the authorities – instead of having a

conversation with them around reparation – has been regrettable. One of the things I would have looked at as part of a consortium is to try and fund them so that they could make some sort of commercial reparation to the other clubs.

 

“But let’s do it in a way whereby it is seen to have happened and we come out of it strongly.”

Edited July 7, 2017 by SteveC

[MacK1950 2,231]

Still buy the papers that try to destroy us as they are the ones that my wife reads and has done so for umpteen years and is a dyed in the wool Gers fan as were her late parents and her siblings.Not using the computer she has the right to read what she is most comfortable with so it is not easy for all on here to boycott these tabloids.