SteveC 150 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/257217-supporters-put-to-shame/?do=findComment&comment=7503990 Some interesting comments in there for those who think the OF would be welcome down south. "English clubs only entertain Rangers or Celtic purely for the financial benefits they bring. Is it really worth it though, people being attacked outside football grounds, former leaders of the EDL turning up for a book launch in a city miles from where he comes from on the same day as Celtic are in town. That's without even mentioning his decision to wear a Rangers top. Pure and utter stupidity from both sides of the divide that spoils it for the folk who just want to see a decent game. Both clubs have a rich footballing history, something they can be rightly proud of but the sectarian bile a large number of their followers spout isn't wanted inside English football grounds. I'm all for great atmospheres etc but in the right sense. The scenario of 5700 Wednesdayites at Preston on Saturday of which no doubt some will be worse for wear and looking for a potential opportunity to cause trouble, is something that will be seen up and down the country in varying numbers. That will always be a part of the English fan culture but at least the other 99% will be singing songs and creating great atmospheres in support of their team and not referring to any of the absolute nonsense we hear from either Celtic Park or Ibrox. Shove your Ulster flags, Bobby Sands banners, songs about Derry walls and broad black brimmers. It's pathetic, childish and a reminder of a time that brought nothing but despair, agony and pain for thousands of innocent people of both Protestant and catholic persuasion. If people can't grow up then we shouldn't be welcoming them back ever again. " 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Any chance we can set up a bank account to send this guy a donation for his fund. There is already one going so anybody who wants to donate can at. https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/madwalker This is his own account, I already sent a donation. Hopefully a good few bears will do it as well. Edited July 31, 2017 by pete 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg_Mcnoleg 50 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Happy to donate to a charity as worthy as that. Having to do so to make amends for some neds with a few pints of 'ooh, you're hard' down them sticks in the craw a bit. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Bears are piling into that fund raising page:rfcbouncy: 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The only thing that made me a bit critical of the guy was that he is collecting for a cancer cause but they took away his cigarettes. He should know better. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 A football supporters group is donating money to Sheffield man John Burkhill's charity appeal to say sorry for alleged harassment he suffered during a friendly match in Sheffield on the weekend. Rangers FC's Club 1872 group started the crowd funding page to 'right a wrong' in the wake of trouble Mr Burkhill faced outside the ground on Sunday before the friendly with Sheffield Wednesday. The Macmillan Cancer Support fundraiser, better known as Sheffield's Mad Man With a Pram, said he was sworn at, and had his wig stolen by fans. Mr Burkhill said it was because he was dressed in green, the colour of Rangers' rival Celtic. Rangers fans were hitting back this afternoon, raising money in support of Mr Burkhill. The page has raised more than £1,400. One anonymous contributor, who donated £10 to the cause, wrote 'From a Rangers supporter with apologies for the idiots who mishandled you'. "Sorry you had to suffer at the hands of 'so-called' supporters," another, who donated £20, said. "I hope my small donation helps to assauge some of the pain and humiliation you were put through." Another man said his donation was going towards the 'wonderful' reception Sheffield Wednesday gave Rangers. Mr Burkhill walks thousands of miles in Sheffield for the charity. Rob Turner, Macmillan Cancer Support's Sheffield fundraising manager, said: "We were shocked to hear about the incident. "John is a tireless supporter who has already raised more than £300,000 for Macmillan. "Fortunately, this is an isolated incident – as John says, it’s never happened before in his years of collecting. "We’re continuing to offer our support to John and help him with his incredible fundraising, which will make a huge difference to people living with cancer.” Read more at: http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rangers-fans-donate-to-sheffield-man-s-campaign-to-help-right-a-wrong-after-hillsborough-incident-1-8679397 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 £1,700 now ! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 £1,700 now ! I read between donating directly and club1872 it was more than 3000. I never knew of the club 1872 just the address above. Some supporters who were there are saying it was just a bit of banter with the man and nothing was taken seriously. Either the man thought differently or the paper is blowing it up for a story. If you now read the story it has turned to alleged harassment, 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverBear7 0 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Sad news I'm afraid. Aparantly some rangers fans "roughed up" a 70 year old fella. This fella works tirelessly for Macmillan cancer research and is seen pushing a shopping trolley round Sheffield and surrounding towns collecting. The reason he was targeted was due to his green wig and flags. It took a few wednesday fans to calm the situation and inform the gers fans of this blokes activities. Not before they had stole his wig and destroyed his flags. Unfortunately these kind of reports are the ones that the media pick up on. Not the 99.99% of the rest of your fans who behaved impeccably. This is very sad, but as everyone has basically said, in a big crowd of drinking excited fans, this sort of stuff will happen. Shame there are morons who only associate green one way - though I totally understand it as the colour now gies me the boke generally. Really glad and proud to see fans donating to that just giving page though. Good on all concerned with that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,299 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Some interesting comments in there for those who think the OF would be welcome down south. "English clubs only entertain Rangers or Celtic purely for the financial benefits they bring. Is it really worth it though, people being attacked outside football grounds, former leaders of the EDL turning up for a book launch in a city miles from where he comes from on the same day as Celtic are in town. That's without even mentioning his decision to wear a Rangers top. Pure and utter stupidity from both sides of the divide that spoils it for the folk who just want to see a decent game. Both clubs have a rich footballing history, something they can be rightly proud of but the sectarian bile a large number of their followers spout isn't wanted inside English football grounds. I'm all for great atmospheres etc but in the right sense. The scenario of 5700 Wednesdayites at Preston on Saturday of which no doubt some will be worse for wear and looking for a potential opportunity to cause trouble, is something that will be seen up and down the country in varying numbers. That will always be a part of the English fan culture but at least the other 99% will be singing songs and creating great atmospheres in support of their team and not referring to any of the absolute nonsense we hear from either Celtic Park or Ibrox. Shove your Ulster flags, Bobby Sands banners, songs about Derry walls and broad black brimmers. It's pathetic, childish and a reminder of a time that brought nothing but despair, agony and pain for thousands of innocent people of both Protestant and catholic persuasion. If people can't grow up then we shouldn't be welcoming them back ever again. " Wonder how many songs the Bears would have sung on Sunday had they refrained from those with Loyalist/Ulster links? Would probably have cut the songbook by two thirds? That said, as far as I am aware, we don't exactly live and breathe that which we sing about any longer, i.e. building gallows or wearing the Sash (didn't hear that one) or having flutes about. It is in the songbook and part of the (dire and cynical but still) "banter" we share with a certain side. Only that the latter has started to intoxicate the climate with songs and actions ever since roundabout 2007, by both getting us into trouble with UEFA and swinging the whole sectarian debate in their favor ... or rather having anything sectarian being blamed on us, not least with the help of the compliant media and authorities. Only since last season the media-outcries about this or that song being aired in some remote part of Scotland have ceased, more or less IMHO because we were back in the Premiership and quite a few supporters of other teams rekindled their animosities with us, usually calling us Huns et al, which is as sectarian or discriminatory as it gets - well, apart from modern day Scotland. Likewise, the IRA-okes of the Yahoos have intensified too and since the naughty Behaviour Bill backfired on them too, the media go to even greater lengths to avoid any talk about songs aired by the Yahoos, for the pendulum slowly but surely starts swinging their way too. Problem with our songbook is: where do you start? The main problem we have had is that our songs are "against" someone (Fenian blood, FTP et al), while most of theirs go on about idolizing terrorists. People being against someone/-things are easier targets, as we have seen with UEFA. So that would need to be chopped ... and you would have quite a few of the e.g. loyalist songs remaining, The Sash, Derry's Walls etc., if any add-ons are dropped too. What would they have to do with football though? Well, not much more or less that Penny Arcade. They do, though, carry an air of togetherness* and are, more often than not, good tunes for a sing along. And obviously, one can introduce songs solely about Rangers and football. But we probably have to wait a generation or two ere we see that happening. *And you wonder whether Brexit will be of any "help" here ... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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