Thursdays and Sundays

[Uilleam 5,429]

1 hour ago, craig said:

Aside from the Invincibles under Rodgers - their results to this point were better than ours.  15 wins and a draw.  But other than that, absolutely true.

 

The number of records this Gerrard-inspired Rangers are creating really is something.

That team was under no pressure from us.....

[Bill 13,717]

32 minutes ago, Uilleam said:

That team was under no pressure from us.....

It's easy to be top banana when no one is breathing down your neck. The test for Celtic was always going to be dealing with the first real taste of pressure. So far it doesn't look like they fancy it. 

[Uilleam 5,429]

16 minutes ago, Bill said:

It's easy to be top banana when no one is breathing down your neck. The test for Celtic was always going to be dealing with the first real taste of pressure. So far it doesn't look like they fancy it. 

Exactly.

[craig 5,198]

54 minutes ago, Uilleam said:

That team was under no pressure from us.....

Not sure that has any relevance to the statement that "our results would have had any Celtic team of the last 40 years behind us".  Mine was merely a statement of fact that one of their teams started better than we have.  Would they have done so against this team ?  Unknown.

 

But regarding your statement about them not having any pressure from us - I have long held the view (since Gerrard came in) that if we could apply pressure to them then they would struggle to cope.  Each time we had a chance to do so in the last two years we have immediately stumbled.  All the frothing yahoos would say is "we've won everything, we know how to cope with pressure" when the reality is, as you say, they never had any pressure applied to them.

 

Now that they are under pressure it appears that not only are their players struggling under the weight of it but so too is their manager, CEO, and fans.  And, for now, it is delicious.  However, Rangers management and playing staff..... please continue to apply the sole of the boot firmly to the neck of them

[the gunslinger 3,366]

They coped last year. 

[Uilleam 5,429]

9 minutes ago, craig said:

Not sure that has any relevance to the statement that "our results would have had any Celtic team of the last 40 years behind us".  Mine was merely a statement of fact that one of their teams started better than we have.  Would they have done so against this team ?  Unknown.

 

But regarding your statement about them not having any pressure from us - I have long held the view (since Gerrard came in) that if we could apply pressure to them then they would struggle to cope.  Each time we had a chance to do so in the last two years we have immediately stumbled.  All the frothing yahoos would say is "we've won everything, we know how to cope with pressure" when the reality is, as you say, they never had any pressure applied to them.

 

Now that they are under pressure it appears that not only are their players struggling under the weight of it but so too is their manager, CEO, and fans.  And, for now, it is delicious.  However, Rangers management and playing staff..... please continue to apply the sole of the boot firmly to the neck of them

That the "Invincible" team was under no pressure from us -or from anyone else for that matter- is also a statement of fact. 

 

[the gunslinger 3,366]

28 minutes ago, craig said:

Not sure that has any relevance to the statement that "our results would have had any Celtic team of the last 40 years behind us".  Mine was merely a statement of fact that one of their teams started better than we have.  Would they have done so against this team ?  Unknown.

 

But regarding your statement about them not having any pressure from us - I have long held the view (since Gerrard came in) that if we could apply pressure to them then they would struggle to cope.  Each time we had a chance to do so in the last two years we have immediately stumbled.  All the frothing yahoos would say is "we've won everything, we know how to cope with pressure" when the reality is, as you say, they never had any pressure applied to them.

 

Now that they are under pressure it appears that not only are their players struggling under the weight of it but so too is their manager, CEO, and fans.  And, for now, it is delicious.  However, Rangers management and playing staff..... please continue to apply the sole of the boot firmly to the neck of them

Mine was also a statement of fact.

 

I initially added bar 1 then considered what i had said and amended it accordingly. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by the gunslinger

[craig 5,198]

1 hour ago, the gunslinger said:

They coped last year. 

We never really put them under pressure last year either though.  We went top with the OF win in December, and then lost away to Killie in first game back which handed them the initiative again.

[craig 5,198]

55 minutes ago, the gunslinger said:

Mine was also a statement of fact.

 

I initially added bar 1 then considered what i had said and amended it accordingly. 

I don't think it is a statement of fact.  Debatable whether we would have beaten that Invincibles team during that initial 16 game run.  Pointless debating a point that can't be proven one way or another.  Better to just enjoy how well THIS Rangers team is doing 

[craig 5,198]

1 hour ago, Uilleam said:

That the "Invincible" team was under no pressure from us -or from anyone else for that matter- is also a statement of fact. 

 

What isn't a statement of fact is saying that this Rangers team would have been ahead of any Celtic team over the last 40 years.  That isn't a statement of fact, it can't be when one of those Celtic teams had a better record at this point.  It is an opinion.

 

At no point did I disagree that they haven't been under pressure.