the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bill said: The only "gaffe" will be if the issue is over-subscribed and the board could have got 30p per share. Share values are set by how much people will pay for them today, not by how much someone paid in the past. Otherwise no one would ever have lost money on the stockmarket. Where did this ridiculous notion come from that directors who effectively saved the club by risking their own money shouldn't have enjoyed the same 20p price as everyone else? The same directors who like everyone else will have to pay 25p for new shares today. I think what we're seeing is an attempt to find grievance on the basis that someone might have been smarter of more successful than someone else. It seems to the the hallmark of Scotland today. who on earth said they shouldn't have paid 20p. what we are saying is they are taking the piss out the fans at 25p. The fans as ever have put in far more money to rangers than the directors and for little or nothing in return. a bold strategy that more sensible heads may consider unwise. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, the gunslinger said: lol now they are doing us a favor. Just when you think it can't get any more ridiculous. they are doing this to protect their own investments. Jeez last on this. Too exhausting. You can caveat it in with “in the imaginary world where the directors act like directors and if they don’t the fans use their power as shareholders to demand they continue to act in a way that increases the value of the share, because broadly speaking increasing share price is a good thing” if it makes you happy. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, bmck said: Jeez last on this. Too exhausting. You can caveat it in with “in the imaginary world where the directors act like directors and if they don’t the fans use their power as shareholders to demand they continue to act in a way that increases the value of the share, because broadly speaking increasing share price is a good thing” if it makes you happy. sure on one of the share indexes...... would we be happy if they had increased it to 200 quid a share based on nothing more than keeping as much control as possible....... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 we are back to the SDM days here. As long as they win they can do anything as far as some are concerned. It's ok not to like their every move and call them out. we don't need permission no mater what some seem to think on that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaspard 562 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Tuppence worth I get all the reasoning in respect of the directors and others investing large sums and the associated risks, that's fine and a good argument in the 20 v 25 debate. What I cannot come to terms with is the recent and ongoing sale of tranches to C1872 at 20p v the 25% increase to the rest of us. I also think the issue price aught to have been published at the point of asking for registration. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 What i wonder is can they now muster enough shares to get special resolutions passed without the ordinary fan now? This may change the voting there. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,596 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 hours ago, the gunslinger said: we are back to the SDM days here. The guys in charge now are Rangers men, as well as businessmen. SDM wasn't a Rangers man. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: The guys in charge now are Rangers men, as well as businessmen. SDM wasn't a Rangers man. bind loyalty it is. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, gaspard said: Tuppence worth I get all the reasoning in respect of the directors and others investing large sums and the associated risks, that's fine and a good argument in the 20 v 25 debate. What I cannot come to terms with is the recent and ongoing sale of tranches to C1872 at 20p v the 25% increase to the rest of us. I also think the issue price aught to have been published at the point of asking for registration. Is it really so important? Unless you believe the share price should never change, there has to be a point somewhere that sees that change actually take place. That point is for the board to decide, no one else. I hardly think this is justification for some fans smearing the integrity of directors that have so clearly transformed the club over the last few years. Buy or don't buy but I think we should leave divisive victimhood to those who wear it better than us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, the gunslinger said: bind loyalty it is. Have you considered therapy? ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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