Bill 13,717 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, compo said: Back to the final it was the best in my old eyes since 1970 and Messi was a joy to watch even if he is getting a bit long in the tooth. I watched both of these World Cup, so I feel qualified to express this opinion ...... The tournament in Qatar was second only to 1970 in Mexico The final in Qatar was second only to the final in 1970 in Mexico The best player in Qatar was second only to the best player in 1970 in Mexico The winning team in Qatar was nowhere near as good as the winning team in 1970 in Mexico 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,133 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Bill said: I watched both of these World Cup, so I feel qualified to express this opinion ...... The tournament in Qatar was second only to 1970 in Mexico The final in Qatar was second only to the final in 1970 in Mexico The best player in Qatar was second only to the best player in 1970 in Mexico The winning team in Qatar was nowhere near as good as the winning team in 1970 in Mexico Of course the 1970 tournament was excellent but you have to remember how many weak inexperienced nations there was back then and a lot were in Mexico but that was the way the tournament was then 16 teams with half not really capable of causing any upsets now days teams are well coached and much more capable that’s why our own team as well as others struggle to break down what we used to call wee diddy teams The competition on and off the parks were first class The final was a feast of two opposites in style and tactics Tha best player in Qatar really is second to no one And I think the winners played tougher opponents than the 1970 winners Plus I had a substantial bet on the Argies from away before the tournament started 😉 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malangsob 1,203 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 hours ago, craig said: Mate, you lot call it "football" in a sport where they hardly ever use their feet to make contact with said ball. Well, if truth be told the original American football did not permit a forward pass...but you could boot it up the park...akin to rugby football, which American football is derived from. So originally there was quite bit more foot required. 'Soccer' is just slang for the word 'asSOCiation football' so as not to confuse it with the much more light, and sensitive British version. hahaha! I had to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, compo said: Of course the 1970 tournament was excellent but you have to remember how many weak inexperienced nations there was back then and a lot were in Mexico but that was the way the tournament was then 16 teams with half not really capable of causing any upsets now days teams are well coached and much more capable that’s why our own team as well as others struggle to break down what we used to call wee diddy teams The competition on and off the parks were first class The final was a feast of two opposites in style and tactics Tha best player in Qatar really is second to no one And I think the winners played tougher opponents than the 1970 winners Plus I had a substantial bet on the Argies from away before the tournament started 😉 So what you're saying is that in a few years the 2022 tournament, while excellent, will be remembered as having too many "weak" diddy teams and therefore not up to scratch? No, even though it was more than half a century ago, the 1970 tournament was the definitive World Cup against which all other are compared and fall short. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Malangsob said: Well, if truth be told the original American football did not permit a forward pass...but you could boot it up the park...akin to rugby football, which American football is derived from. So originally there was quite bit more foot required. 'Soccer' is just slang for the word 'asSOCiation football' so as not to confuse it with the much more light, and sensitive British version. I always thought American Football was slang for pretentious loitering without much intent 😁 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,133 Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Bill said: So what you're saying is that in a few years the 2022 tournament, while excellent, will be remembered as having too many "weak" diddy teams and therefore not up to scratch? No, even though it was more than half a century ago, the 1970 tournament was the definitive World Cup against which all other are compared and fall short. No the teams at Qatar were excellent it was 1970 were 50%were diddy teams 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,133 Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 And now FIFA are proposing the tournament be played every three years and in the winter months 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil's advocaat 1,275 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Not really comparing apples with apples. In 1970 the world Cup was one of 2 or 3 televised football events, with 'exotic' players that were relatively unknown. Pele himself was a bit of an unknown, how often did we get to see him play? Every 4 years? (Genuine question, not a criticism, I was born in 75!). Fast forward to the absolute overdose of world football that we have now, it doesn't really have that 'special' feeling that it did in the good old days, we get to see Messi et al on a weekly basis. I've always thought it a bit bizarre that Messi was judged against Pele, Maradona etc negatively, as he hadn't won a world Cup, As if thats an individual acheivement. Indeed, even the great Pele never really tested himself domestically outside of his own country. It was an awesome world Cup in Qatar, whether it was as good as another one half a century ago is pretty much irrelevant. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblio 123 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I think when people talk about it being the best final ever they mean the best last 10 minutes (of both normal and extra time). It was a pretty dull affair up to 80 minutes but that all seems to be forgotten. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,195 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Malangsob said: Well, if truth be told the original American football did not permit a forward pass...but you could boot it up the park...akin to rugby football, which American football is derived from. So originally there was quite bit more foot required. 'Soccer' is just slang for the word 'asSOCiation football' so as not to confuse it with the much more light, and sensitive British version. hahaha! I had to. That as may be, using feet to connect with the ball plays a significantly lesser role than using the hands.... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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