OFFICIAL Rangers appoint Russell Martin as head coach

[Fa1833 500]

9 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

At the time it seemed grim but it was never over by Hallowe’en. The

last dozen seasons has been mostly embarrassing.

 

Tavernier has been an excellent player for Rangers but the last two seasons show that his athleticism is falling off. Why wouldn’t it? That said, he has never been captain material which is not a criticism. Neither were Laudrup or Gascoigne.

Curiosity who was Captain before Tav, also Was he the longest serving player?  as some clubs usually go with the most  senior players as there captains rather than leadership. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Fa1833

[Devil's advocaat 1,954]

I'm far from a fanboi, but Tav has been a fantastic buy for our club, Anyone who doesn't think so is clearly quite delusional.

[Devil's advocaat 1,954]

2 minutes ago, Fa1833 said:

Curiosity who was Captain before Tav, also Was he the longest serving player as some clubs usually go with senior players as there captains rather on overall captaincy role

Lee Wallace IIRC.

[CammyF 9,664]

6 minutes ago, Whosthedado said:

They are serial losers. Tav has been Captain for a fair chunk of that time.

 

We finish second in a two horse race and have done consistently... part of that is our 'Captain' to blame

So was John Greig and his teams serial losers? The greatest ever Ranger a serial loser? At least Tavs in good company

 

[Whosthedado 1,886]

3 minutes ago, CammyF said:

So was John Greig and his teams serial losers? The greatest ever Ranger a serial loser? At least Tavs in good company

 

Before my time mate to be honest and I dont mean that offensively. In my lifetime Rangers Captains have been like Gough Ferguson (Barry) etc. Tav should have been sold at least two seasons ago. The fact Martin has come out and backed him has alarm bells ringing already

[Rousseau 12,144]

I think the idea that Martin has come out and backed Tavernier is pure projection. 

 

From what I can see, the whole quote is more diplomatic:

 

“Then how much he gets used on the pitch will be down to Tav and how he trains and how he plays, the same as every player. But he's going to be hugely important in the culture. I know what he's like as a person behind the scenes and he's fantastic."

 

“How much he plays on the pitch, I can't sit here and tell you he's going to play 50 games, 20 games, whatever. It will be down to him in the way he performs and the way he buys into it, which I'm pretty sure he will."

 

'When asked if he would be comfortable with Tavernier as captain of a Russell Martin Rangers team, the coach added: “If he's playing. He's been the captain for a very long time. I don't see any reason to change that. And if he's not playing, it will force someone else [to be captain].”'

[Scott7 6,954]

46 minutes ago, CammyF said:

So was John Greig and his teams serial losers? The greatest ever Ranger a serial loser? At least Tavs in good company

 

Losing is never good but Greig’s teams didn’t capitulate the way recent Rangers teams have done. That’s not Tavernier’s fault entirely but I’m sure Gough would have bludgeoned the players to try a bit harder.

[Gribz 1,340]

Tav produced some good performances in the latter stages of the season especially in Europe. I was previously critical saying his legs had gone. 

 

No reason why he cant be club captain but not team captain. The question is who else takes the arm band. Id say Souttar and Raskin are the only possibilities which is worrying as we should have 5 or 6 candidates.  

[CammyF 9,664]

No amount of justification can explain why John Greig wasn't a 'serial loser' during Celtics originally 9-in-a-row, yet Tav is.

 

It doesn't matter if we were 1 point or 101 points behind  we lost the league. So either both are serial losers, or neither are.

 

The reality is, not 1 single player can be held fully responsible for years of losing titles, be it Tav or John Greig.

[Blue Moon 1,676]

To blame Tav for all the ills the team has suffered is to ignore the turbulence the club went through in 2012 and since.  We lost most of our decent players and have been playing catchup since.  It is ignoring the poor quality of many of our signings, the lack of funds, the spivs draining money out of the club, flip flopping on sporting director model, giving the money to Beale etc etc.  One of the constants throughout most of that has been Tav and I doubt he will have what it takes to play every game and if that is the case he won't.  I believe we owe him our gratitude and respect.

Edited 4 hours ago by Blue Moon