The Rangers Summer 2025 Transfer Rumours and Deals - Thread

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,979]

49 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

How much time do they need?

 

They have been aware of what is coming here since January. Do they need another 6 months?

 

Well for one they could not sign any players as the window was closed. Two, they probably had an idea that Thelwell and Purdy were potentially coming in but during that time there was no first team coach. Do you not think it is prudent to have the head coach involved with the signings. Especially at the start of a new way of operating for our club. Just give them time. I doubt if they are all sitting on their hands doing nothing. 

[Sutton_blows_goats 6,628]

45 minutes ago, BlackSocksRedTops said:

Well for one they could not sign any players as the window was closed. Two, they probably had an idea that Thelwell and Purdy were potentially coming in but during that time there was no first team coach. Do you not think it is prudent to have the head coach involved with the signings. Especially at the start of a new way of operating for our club. Just give them time. I doubt if they are all sitting on their hands doing nothing. 

You can arrange deals anytime.

 

I do not know why people continue to come up with excuses. It’s the same every summer.
 

These guys are in, it’s on them to deliver.

 

 

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,979]

44 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

You can arrange deals anytime.

 

I do not know why people continue to come up with excuses. It’s the same every summer.
 

These guys are in, it’s on them to deliver.

 

 

I don't think anyone is disputing that its up to these guys to deliver. And I don't think it excuses. Do you genuinely think they are sitting around doing nothing and are not aware of what's required? 

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[Devil's advocaat 1,990]

15 hours ago, L72 said:

Shit n shite.

Ever considered a career in debating? Quite the wordsmith. 

[JohnMc 3,334]

I suspect a few on here are too young to remember season 1984/85. We finished 5th that season, in a 10 team division. Our points tally was closer to Clydebank, who finished bottom, than to Celtic's who won the league. This was the 9th season since Rangers had last troubled the engraver of the league trophy. Davie Cooper, the only truly great player at the club at that time had publicly made his dismay with how things were known. Not everyone in our support was happy with him for that either. The culture at the club was not good. It was penny pinching for a start. The club was paying lower salaries than Aberdeen were for example. it was also old fashioned, too many people were clinging to the old days. Wallace had been a brilliant manager in 70s, but by the mid-80s his style was no longer working. Younger managers with 'modern styles' had turned Rangers down when approached. After a boardroom coup David Holmes was appointed to run the club and he instantly saw the cultural issues the club had and set about changing them. 

 

The biggest change he made was replacing Wallace with Souness and Walter Smith. This transformed the culture at the club. Souness was very public about this. For example at the time Rangers had a ban on players having a moustache. This might seem curious, irrelevant even, but it's an example of a club culture that was suffocated by history, of people harking back to 'the good old days' and refusing to accept that times change and of you don't change with them you get left behind. There is no doubt that we had a signing policy then too, Souness very quickly made it known he would not be following that either. Culturally this was a big deal for a percentage of our support. What Holmes and Souness realised was that the culture at the club was not set up to win titles, there were issues both on and off the pitch that needed addressed. 

 

What's interesting about this culture change, on the pitch at least, is Souness and Smith won the league the following season with a squad largely made up of the players who had struggled to finish fifth the season before. We signed Terry Butcher, Chris Woods, Jimmy Nichol, Colin West and of course Souness himself. Graeme Roberts joined later in the season, but players like McCoist, Davie Cooper, Derek Ferguson, Stuart Munro, Ted McMinn, Ian Durrant, Bobby Fleck and Dave McPherson were the core of that team. Changing the culture of the club meant that players, many of who had been written off the previous season, developed the right mentality. 

 

When Alex Ferguson took over at Manchester Utd the club a drinking culture. This wasn't seen as a negative, believe it or not, players socialising together was seen as good for team spirit. Players being able to drink heavily and still make training and play matches was a culture that I was familiar with in the printing industry in the 1980s. Big boozers who still made their work was a badge of honour, there was a strange cultural approval for men like that. Ferguson recognised this, he was a Clydeside shipbuilder, this was not an alien culture to him, but he'd come across it at Aberdeen when he first went there and knew he needed to eradicate it. At Aberdeen it had been players  like Joe Harper and Jimmy Bone who led it, seasoned pros who'd had successful careers and who were influential in the dressing room. At Man Utd it was Paul McGrath, Norman Whiteside and Bryan Robson. McGrath and Whiteside were sold and Robson was warned he could change his ways and remain club captain or he could leave too. The rest is history. 

 

The word culture isn't a new word, it's not some vegan, snowflake corporate talk as some seem to think, it's absolutely core to running of the club. I'm heartened that those in charge of the club recognise this and want to change it. Whether they can and will is a different discussion, but if we want a winning team then things need to change at Rangers, we should welcome this. 

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1 hour ago, BlackSocksRedTops said:

I don't think anyone is disputing that its up to these guys to deliver. And I don't think it excuses. Do you genuinely think they are sitting around doing nothing and are not aware of what's required? 

Doesn’t matter if it think they are busy are not, only the outcomes matter. As we stand right now only Cameron has been added to the squad. We have a long, long way to go to be competitive from here. From the outside looking in I’d feel far more comfortable had I seen more progress.

 

There is still time, but it will pass very quickly. As with any deadline it will be here before they know it.

[L72 564]

5 minutes ago, Devil's advocaat said:

Ever considered a career in debating? Quite the wordsmith. 

Words delivered in the most simplistic of forms are often the most beautiful.

[Gonzo79 15,665]

10 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

The word culture isn't a new word, it's not some vegan, snowflake corporate talk as some seem to think,

I think you are missing the context of how it has been used by Martin and the new owners.  

Basically, we need to replace the acceptance of failure in the squad - everyone is aware of that.  

[Devil's advocaat 1,990]

100% Gonzo.

[L72 564]

22 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

 

What's interesting about this culture change, on the pitch at least, is Souness and Smith won the league the following season with a squad largely made up of the players who had struggled to finish fifth the season before. We signed Terry Butcher, Chris Woods, Jimmy Nichol, Colin West and of course Souness himself. Graeme Roberts joined later in the season, but players like McCoist, Davie Cooper, Derek Ferguson, Stuart Munro, Ted McMinn, Ian Durrant, Bobby Fleck and Dave McPherson were the core of that team.

So we signed decent players?

 

You've said a lot, but it basically breaks down to Souness added winners to drag the standards up.