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I'd suggest the majority of the fans are still behind Fergie, so this could be a big mistake. As for stripping him of the captain's armband, that's one thing, but why's he not going to play tomorrow? If he doesn't play then I'm assuming he's off.

Is this the start of the end for PLG then? Or the move which will turn things around for him on the pitch and in the dressing room?

And possibly to be transfer listed. Gavin Rae is the new club captain. Not sensational in my eyes, hardly a surprise to be honest if we're to believe half the gossip that there has been over the last few weeks.

I can't get MW so am on-line too. They're saying its definitely not a case of over-hyping a story, so is it something to do with our captain, manager or chairman?

On other forums the smart money seems to be on something to do with Fergie.

Its due at half time in today's games from Radio Scotland, so, what will it be? PLG has realised we can't defend and is signing Goughie? DM has left? We're close to making a signing that will "rock Scottish football" but never actually happen? PLG is to be given decent cash to spend? Another total non-story from Chick Dung? What do you think?

And today Kris Boyd has come out and said the players must shoulder the blame amongst other things.

Regardless of what you think of Maclean, I think that article has a lot of home truths in it and probably sums up what we've all been thinking. But, we just have to get behind PLG and the boys 100% through these times.

Exactly Gribz.

Spot on Gribz, we need some older, experienced players to steady the ship. Even if they're near the end of their careers, get some guys in who have proven themselves at a higher level. We've obviously got our wage bill way under control now, so wages shouldn't be a problem. I know that people complain about short-term signings, but we have problems we need to sort out now to make sure we get second place.

His agent has now released a statement saying that Webster is going nowhere and wants to stay to fight for his place. Of course, we all know how trustworthy agents are, but it kind of puts a dampener on this one.

Last season I thought there were major things going on behind the scenes which weren't helping us on the pitch. This was because of what was being reported in the media, the rumours, little comments, the general lack of team spirit etc. In the end we didn't learn much other than there did seem to be elements within the team undermining AM and even a talking-to from DM didn't seem to change the players' attitude much. Fast forward to this season and its much the same. I could be totally wrong, but there still seems to be major problems in our squad. I don't buy in to the media conspiracy, that they're all against us, every fan I knows thinks that the papers are against their club. We've had some of the same rumours as last year and stories in the media about dressing room unrest, PLG not settling, thinking about leaving etc. Its pretty clear on the pitch that there's a lack of leadership and team spirit. Only this week we have Svensson admitting that there are distinct groups of players in the dressing room who socialise together. While this is a long way from disruptive cliques, I don't think its a good sign and I'm starting to wonder if there's more to the story than meets the eye. We've also seen PLG making some strange comments to the press about Ferguson, the goal-keeping situation earlier and seemingly struggling to find a good word to say about Boyd. We're not at Christmas yet and DM has had to have a word with the players about their performances. IMO he should have been telling them their wages would be donated to charity until they pulled their collective fingers out, but I'm guessing it was a general kick up the arse kind of talk which has so far fallen on deaf ears. I really hope I'm wrong here, but something's not quite right and it seems to be the same sort of atmosphere we had last season. The manager has changed along with a lot of the backroom staff, so its even more strange. There's usuall no smoke without fire although we all know that we do have a lazy media who will report any old nonsense, but I just have a bad feeling about all of this. Time to concentrate on the game against St Mirren which is, like the rest of our league matches, a must-win fixture. Time to get behind the team and PLG and let our voices be heard.

Again, I see Webster as a fairly low risk signing. He's not going to cost too much in wages and has SPL experience. Bit of a no brainer surely?

There's been rumours around for a while that PLG would be the one to decide when to quit/move on and this was before the story that was run in some of the papers.

I'm gutted we weren't in for him, short term or not, he would have helped shore up our defence. Unfortunately a lot of Bears seem to think the realistic alternatives to Pressley are players like John Terry.

I heard he's gone back to Man Yoo as well, but I could be wrong. Kind of academic though, if he's not gone already, it can only be a matter of days.

I don't think there is a large Q of possible buyers and investors, otherwise DM would be gone by now. So surely DM needs to realise that he must invest in the playing staff to stop the slide?

This is a guy I thought we should have signed some time ago. He wanted to come to Ibrox but our offer was short and we wouldn't pay the extra bit needed to secure him. Then at the start of this season I thought he wouldn't be up to the standard of Svensson & Papac, but now I'm not so sure. Looks like he could come back to a Scottish club on loan until the summer where he could then sign on a permanent deal. Does anyone else think he's worth a punt? I know he's not the commanding centre half we badly need, but he's got SPL experience and on the basis of what we've seen, I think he's better than any of our current centre halves. Of course, whether PLG would want to sign him is another thing entirely, but I'd rather see us signing someone who really wants to play for the club and knows what's expected of him at Ibrox.

Didn't realise he'd made so few appearances. As the season has gone on, I don't think we've missed him that much, Hutton has improved a hell of a lot this year and I don't think our full back positions are much of a problem in the scheme of things. Distribution and the final ball needs to be worked on, but we have much bigger problems to sort out first.

.... why don't you say what you really think about PLG! http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=why-le-guen%2Ds-got-to-go%26method=full%26objectid=18344203%26siteid=66633-name_page.html

We were kind of in the same position last year and then, as now, we're seeing the same sort of posts on here and other forums which are saying that protests are for Celtic fans and that its a disgrace. I'm starting to wonder if we have any options left though? Besides, you can still demonstrate against the Chairman while fully being behind the team and manager.

Part of the problem must be potential returns on investment. Unless you get someone mega-rich who can afford to write off large sums on transfer fees & wages, they're going to struggle to get any money back due to us being in the SPL. What we need is a Bluenose who has a lot of spare cash to burn and is looking for a new challenge. Otherwise I don't know who is going to come in and turn things around with significant investment.

Maybe he needs a run in the reserve team to get his confidence up? If he starts scoring, then promote him back to the first XI. He looks to be in a vicious circle at the moment of not scoring and totally lacking confidence.

We need investment and I think its time for PLG to demand it. The only worrying thing is that over the last few months its been reported that PLG doesn't want to bring in too many players and upset the balance within the squad. On the basis of his foreign signings, should we trust PLG with a load more dosh? Also, Murray isn't stupid, surely he must see just how poor we've become and the impact that's having on the value of the club? A transitional season in the SPL should still see us being able to get 2nd place, but for the second season in a row its looking like being a long, tough fight. Depressing.

I see today that Collins was complaining that the linesman got it wrong and Shiels didn't punch Gordon. Even if he didn't surely an aggressive push to the neck area is still a sending off? Bizarre how being a fan can cloud the judgement as I've seen some really strange posts trying to defend the guy.