Tannochsidebear

I'm sure I read a stat last night that rasellick have only won 1 CL group match out of the last 28. I can only imagine the media coverage if that was our stat.

Can't say i've noticed him fading more than others, although to be fair by late in the game under Bealeball i'm usually asleep or staring at my watch wondering why we've played 275 minutes in the second half.

I thought Raskin was the best of a bad bunch in the first half, but faded in the second. I give it to Lawrence for the most delightful pass to play in Matondo for the clinching goal.

St J 0 Rangers 3 fgs Roofe

Ah ok, yes curious. Probably because they want to fleece the max out of us so no tiering of prices so as to maximise income. They probably don’t think they will get away with that for a whole season but for a 3 game package then let’s fleece the mugs!

He can start with getting rid of the amateur head coach and appoint a proper manager before the gap gets too big. Huge fortnight ahead.

Only centre stand I thought. Wings were always cheaper if I remember right?

I’ve yet to see any medals, trophies or Euro CL qualifications based on xG, so it’s all hypothetical pish and the table on the left is the only one that matters and it’s not nice reading. 4 games played, 2 defeats, 4 points behind the worst Tim team I’ve seen in quarter of a century and already out of the only Euro tournament that matters. Beale out.

Utter pish display, virtually non-existent songs and noise throughout. Time to shut these egomaniacs down just like the manager.

Butland is the only one with pass marks a month in. The rest seem to be downgrades on who they have replaced, as is the manager himself.

Didn’t think so and unfortunately I have to agree but truly absolutely hope I’m wrong. A convincing win on Sunday could be helicopter day for Beale’s fortunes. A defeat and he’s dead man walking.

Do you have any confidence in our manager and his collection of new players to get that job done? I am struggling to see it myself.

Have you seen the teams in the conference cup? Lille, Zagreb, Brugge, Alkmaar, Villa, Fiorentina, Frankfurt, Fenerbahce, to name a few. If we cant get past Prague & Limassol, how do we think we get to the last 4 or so with the above teams involved?

I have absolutely no doubt it will be totally overpriced, and will completely sell out. And dont forget to watch out for the Thursday Cup Range from Castore hitting an email inbox near you soon, with even more overpriced "leisure and travelwear" for us to consume, which we will in huge numbers.

We are top seeds for a reason, so anything less than 1st place is statistically a failure. We have beaten far better sides than these 3 in the last couple of years. The bonus of missing a round plus additional bonuses for topping the group is the only target we should have. And then I remember Beale is still our manager, our star European performers are mostly gone, and our new recruits we have to give at least a year to bed in, so as long as we get 3rd place and drop into the diddy diddy cup that would be acceptable now wouldn't it?

Limassol completes the group

Sparta Prague again

Real Betis in our group

I’m clearly not explaining myself very well so let me be clear. I hope they scummy chunts never ever get another ticket for Ibrox. Is that clear enough? What I’m saying is I can understand the argument for restoring allocations to boost the profile of the game worldwide. I stopped going to the piggery about 2009 or so when ticket prices went over £40 and I decided to not be ripped off any longer, and my seat is in the Copland, so it doesn’t affect me personally if allocations are to be reinstated. I would be raging if the scum got the corner again and we got the restricted view corner at the piggery. That’s not fair or equal and our club must fight against that. If we give the Broomie we must get the same seating behind the goal over there. That should be our red line. We have bigger issues to deal with.

No its about building a sellable brand to a worldwide market. We moan about the tv deals we get in this country, but then are doing everything we can to diminish the one sellable fixture to a worldwide market that we have to promote. I hated them being there, especially when we didnt win, but I can understand that is what makes the game so attractive to an otherwise passive audience. Would it be worth this sacrifice to gain a much bigger tv contract that in turn allows us to be stronger? Maybe so, maybe not, thats why it is a debating forum. Come Sunday I will be much happier for that two hours not having to see and hear the scum at the other end of the stadium, and if we give them a tanking then even better. But without that poisonous atmosphere then it is just another game between two pretty poor football teams for worldwide neutrals.

I wouldn't mind giving them the full Broomie again, as long as we got the same location at their midden, not stuck in the corner with restricted views. The only reason we have a famous fixture (and the worldwide interest) is the atmosphere and rivalry at these fixtures, which has been diluted since the allocations were restricted. The poisonous atmosphere is a sellable asset and while the SPFL couldnt sell water in a desert this is still the best change we have of getting bigger tv deals which is what we all need. On the basis that it seems really unlikely that we will ever return to this, I can definitely see a return to around 1000 tickets each, and for me this has to be up in the rear of the club deck out of sight of the cameras. Police it properly and it should be no problem. Sell the season tickets accordingly like we used to do, which was effectively a ST for all home games apart from the OF games.

cheers @CammyF, i'm still thinking there must have been another successful one in the last 15 years but I'm not coming up with anything!

Was Charlie Adam's loan to St Mirren further back than McGregor? Says a lot if those two were the last successful ones!

Not at all, i'm hoping we win every game, come third in the CL group stages and win the league and domestic cups. But under Beale I am expecting failure, and so I dont want to lose someone I value as one of our better players who is contracted for another 3 years and IMO could do us a very good job because this manager's ego gets in the way when i personally dont believe he will be manager past Xmas. Of course the way Brenda is going across the road may well mean Beale gets more leeway. 2 wins in the next week and I will be having massive amounts of humble pie, with a huge grin on my face!

Went for Roofe, but Tav, Souttar and Borna were all good too. No real 9/10 performances but a lot of 7's in a competant display where at HT I thought we had played well and the second half would be pffft and so it panned out. Under Beale we just dont play a good 90 mins. We may have to do this twice in the next 7 days if our season is to meet its objectives.