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Grezda was a gamble, a player who if fit and ready may have been out of our price range. It’s been claimed Grezda was the best player for a decent Osijek side. I’m not sure Jones will ever be at the level needed.

Agreed mate but without Morelos’ hold up play and Arfield supporting runs we look a far poorer team going forward.

I think you are underestimating how many chances Morelos creates for the team. His work rate and hold up play is forever improving. We also missed the drive of Arfield in midfield. The result is frustrating as Aberdeen were rank rotten.

We are still 2 or 3 players short of being a really good team. Hopefully we can sort that out in January.

We missed Morelos today, however I think the man we really missed today and Thursday was Arfield. Arfield is the experienced man who drives our team forward. I hope the pain of seeing celtic lift another trophy spurs the team on.

You are right - there is nothing to boast about (yet) but there is plenty to be optimistic about.

It just shows how far we have come that I left the ground disappointed that we didnt beat Spartak Moscow.

On another note I know another one of our players is also texting young females whilst playing happy families at home. These lads need to be a little wiser IMO. Be happy with what you have.

Brian Laudrup was instrumental in winning the Euro Championships...

"Right lads if anyone thinks that Graeme Shinnie and Gary Mackay Steven deserve to be in the Scotland squad in front of you... Tell them to sling their hook!" "LETS GO!"

There is no debating with you though, you think you are right on everything. Simple fact is Devlin, Shinnie and GMS are not good enough to improve Scotland - so why not give players who's form is on the ascendancy a chance? LOL indeed...

No mate these are facts. Middleton - has scored 3 goals this season with 1 assist and has only played 284 minutes. GMS - has scored 4 goals this season and also has 1 assist whilst playing 1054 minutes. Statistically Middleton has had a better start to the season than Gary Mackay Steven - who IMO is extremely average. Now you are correct in saying Middleton is not even ready for our first team - however if McLeish is going to give out caps to poor players such as GMS, then we may as well have the debate as to whether he should have included one of the most promising wingers in Scotland at this moment in time.

I started with that point previously - by stating that Middleton has statistically had a better start to the season the Gary Mackay Steven. David Bates has also made a solid start to his career at Hamburg and deserved a chance before Devlin. As for Halliday/McCrorie - well they have come out on top against Shinnie in every game I have seen.

That is ludicrous and I have never suggested this. However my points above still stands - we have players on the ascendancy who are operating at a higher level than the Aberdeen players who were selected. When was the last time Aberdeen beat us?

Instead we have Aberdeen regulars who have failed every year to qualify for the Europa league. Whereas Andy Halliday, Glen Middleton, Ryan Jack and Ross McCrorie have all featured in a very impressive run so far in Europe. Yet we are stuck with McKenna, Devlin, Shinnie and Gary Mackay Steven.... Go figure.

Middleton - has scored 3 goals this season with 1 assist and has only played 284 minutes. GMS - has scored 4 goals this season and also has 1 assist whilst playing 1054 minutes. Glen Middleton is very raw but undoubtedly has more potential. As for Bates playing for Hamburg - Charlie Mulgrew was playing 3rd tier football last season. In short McLeish should be looking to the future not turning to middle of the road Aberdeen players who have not qualified for the group stages of a European tournament in 11 years.

Glad to see we have a little debate going. I am fully aware that Dorrans and Jack are not 100% fit however that did not stop Albania calling up Grezda. My main bone of contention is that IMO Middleton, McCrorie and Bates would have been better than GMS, Shinnie and Devlin. Recent head to heads and European performances would support this line of thinking.

Two words that just don’t seem to go together anymore. Gone are the days where the heart of the team are Rangers players. After a raft of call offs I looked on with interest as McLeish and his back room staff turned to likes of: Michael Devlin Graeme Shinnie Gary Mackay Stevens Three players from an Aberdeen side who are struggling to find form. Surely players such as: Glen Middleton Andy Halliday Ryan Jack (I believe his back fit) Graeme Dorrans Ross McCrorie Who are all playing European football this season would have been a better bet than the aforementioned three? In fact even Hamburg’s David Bates would have been a better choice than Devlin.

He apparently looked very short of match practice though.

Parma was the best game I have ever been to.

Really enjoyed this weeks discussion, it really helps when we have a positive week. It was good to hear @JohnMc and he sounds much happier in "pod-land" than he is on here

For me it’s a tough one as Katic is our player. There is not much between the two at the moment and I would like to see us develop our own.

Haha - tuned in to our game in the hope we got beat.

Absolutely no chance of that mate.

On a personal note last night was ever so sweet as I realised when Tavernier stepped up to take the penalty that I was sitting in the same part of the stadium 8 years ago when Rooney scored a late penalty winner for Man United. The Rangers we know and love - finally seem to have woken from their slumber.