Rousseau

I was looking at the squads of the U-21 European Championship teams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship_squads). We should be poaching the young talent from countries/leagues that are inferior/less wealthy than ours. The Scandinavian leagues are considered lesser than ours are they not? There are some decent names in their squads we should seriously consider. I always notice that they get picked up by Dutch sides if they show any promise -- we should get in there first!

How are we defining "one-trick pony"? "a person or thing with only one special feature, talent, or area of expertise." I think most footballers would come under that definition -- Messi does the same stuff over and over again. Vuckic has one special talent, and that is his left foot. He's not particularly quick, or skillful, but he has a decent 'jink' (?), or acceleration to move away from a player and a very good left foot. He started his career as a striker and I think most can see he isn't particularly effective/suited in midfield. He needs to be played further up. I think he was sussed out to a degree at the end, but he was still able to beat a man to get a shot off (I'm thinking of the Hibs play-off game at Easter Road), but it seemed to me it was executed from further and further away from the goal. If we could get him cheaply, then I'd take him; he'd do a job. He was one of our 'better' player, but relatively speaking he's not an exceptional talent. Most players do in fact specialise, which can come under the definition of 'one-trick pony'. I think Vuckic could be considered a 'one-trick pony' in the sense that he specialises on his strength, but IMO most players do so, so it shouldn't be a derogatory assignation.

I would love to copy a Chilean approach, however unrealistic it may be: energetic, fast, technically proficient young players, but almost 'stock' players, no superstars; and combine that with the most progressive, high pressure, technical game you'll ever see in Bielsa's tactics (and his disciples) and it makes for a fascinating team/game (3-3-1-3 formation! Who doesn't want to see that!) I like the idea of no superstars, but working players, with good technical ability, that can play in a number of positions.

Many were underwhelmed when Warburton was linked to the job -- me included! I have since come to realise that he appears to have the skills that we need at this time. I'm quite confident he will be beneficial in terms of rebuilding the club, and also playing attacking football. However, while I despair at the lack of positivity in the new manager by some, I appreciate that some will require tangible results before they can judge; that's fine, but it works both ways, so I would suggest keeping the criticism -- for that is what it is, and that's what others are most frustrated at -- to a minimum until he can be judged properly.

Vacation!? Another Americanism slipping into our dialect. I despair.

I was never a big fan of Mohsni (although I was pleased when he performed well: like the times when he reads the forward pass a drives himself forward to intercept; Or the times he got his head on a cross easing the pressure. I took great pleasure in watching that -- we don't have many that can read a pass like that. It was all too few and far between alas!), but I feel sorry for him here. It was not an unprovoked attack, and while I'm not condoning what he did, I feel he's being made a scapegoat. He's not a nutcase, he just has a temper with a low tolerance threshold. I doubt anyone, when pushed hard, would simply walk away. I condemn the degree of the response, but I do not condemn that he responded at all.

I agree, but I doubt achieving a Europa League spot for the 2016/17 season is realistic. I think you assume young British players will not progress to Europa League standard, whereas I think they can. We've shown intent by targeting young players (One so far, but we can presume that's the type Warburton's after), and if they progress in the right way we will have a squad capable of qualifying for the Europa League in a few years time; In that regard, we are signing players capable of -- potentially -- competing in the Europa League. I also concur with Ian1964, that we're not really in a position to sign Europa League-standard players while we're in the Championship. I think the planning we agree should happen entails buying younger, British-based, players with a modern-game style and plenty of promise at the present time. I think Europe is a few years off yet, and we'll only be able to sign the appropriate players when we have a realistic chance of finishing in a European spot in the Premiership.

One step at a time. As long as they're young and promising then I'm happy. We can sign players for European campaigns when we're nearer qualification.

The section in bold is quite promising: if Martinez thought he had something then I'd be confident that he'd be comfortable on the ball. Warburton does indeed know the kid from Watford and Brentford. My opinion is changing for the positive after being somewhat underwhelmed initially.

Wee bit underwhelmed but I'm willing to defer judgement until I see him. Warburton obviously knows the guy, he's at a good age and has played in a competitive league, so a quick glace would imply he'd do well enough.

Impartiality versus prejudice.

That's a brutal statement, but I think it must be adhered to. However, Stevie May is still only 22 and his record at Scottish Championship level is excellent, his record at Premiership level is good also. While in principle I agree we should be looking for young successful players who have done well in England, I question how we could attract them. I would be quite pleased to get Stevie May: he's a good young talent -- certainly better than what we have!

That's why we need a Sporting Director, or DoF: someone who will implement a structure that will continue regardless of managerial change. In theory the manager will fit into the system in place, rather than a manager overhauling the system every time we change manager. I think Warburton understands this and can begin this implementation process. I think, hope a Sporting Director will be appointed sometime in the future.

'Follow', or 'support'? One can 'follow' any side one likes. I 'follow' several sides because I like the way they play. I 'support' one side. (I'm not saying I'm right, it's just the way I feel.) What are the reasons?

According to Wikipedia, "Near the end of the season, it was reported by BBC Sport that Wilson had exercised a clause in his contract allowing him to become a free agent." Or BBC: "The 23-year-old defender has triggered a clause in his contract that will terminate his deal with the Edinburgh club with a year left still to run." So, he had another year to go, but choose to become a free agent.

It's a sad state of affairs. It would suggest, with younger fans 'choosing' to follow the big sides, that the attendances for lower league sides will decrease; any evidence for that? I still think my point remains: you don't choose which team you support. You can follow any side you like, but truly 'supporting' a team is different.

I agree. He's certainly not a 'new' name to excite fans, but he's decent -- he probably is better than what we have -- and, crucially, is only 23, so should improve with time.

I don't think one 'chooses' to support Rangers, or any other side. Like I said, 'supporting' a side and being entertained through the beauty of football are two very different things. I'll watch Barcelona etc. to be entertained; I'll watch Rangers because their my team.

I'm not suggesting someone is any less of a fan because they buy a ST or not, but I was questioning the finality of saying "I'm done," when things are not going our way. Moreover, just because one doesn't buy a ST -- for on-the-pitch or off-the-pitch reasons -- doesn't mean they stop supporting the side. For me 'supporting' a side and being entertained through the beauty of football are two very different things. A 'supporter' would follow his side throughout. You are obviously still 'supporting' the side even though you've not bought a ST in a few years.

If he doesn't appreciate the scale of the task he certainly will when the games come around. His Trader background will stand him in good stead, in terms of dealing with the pressure, but it won't guarantee success.

Oh, I certainly want to be entertained, but I'm saying I'm still going watch my team even if I'm not. What is a supporter if he turns away in the dark days?

Bubble burst. I don't see anything in your quote that contradicts his statement. His father may well have been nervous of taking a young boy into a hostile atmosphere. He ultimately took young Davie, surely? It's a nice story, which represents the tradition. The tradition is true even if the personal story is not.

"I have always taken pride in being a Rangers supporter," wrote the Rangers Chairman. "It is something I inherited from my father who, in turn, inherited the legacy from my grandfather. This is what Rangers fans do. We pass on our pride and belief in Rangers to our children." The cynics might snigger at the "Club for Generations" slogan, crafted as it was to sell Season tickets. I myself let out a thinly disguised snort when reading King's tagline, but the principle I always held self-evident. One doesn't chose to become a Rangers fan: it's passed from father to son. The 'club for generations' tagline was nothing more than a gimmick to encourage fans to buy season tickets. This year, more than before, season ticket sales is a key part in the strategy to get the club back to where it belongs. Some may criticise the way it has been done, but I doubt many would question its necessity. However, I cannot hide my disappointment in the comments surrounding the desire for a 'product' to buy. "I won't be back until..." comments have been common. I would never criticise someone for not buying a season ticket: Just because someone can't buy a season ticket doesn't mean they are not a fan, it doesn't mean they will stop 'supporting' the club, but these words have a brutal finality to them that I wasn't expecting. It is almost implied that these individuals will stop supporting the team because we are not winning, or not entertaining. I'm left incredulous. Since when did a Rangers fan require a reason to support their team? Perhaps simply a change is required to kick-start season ticket sales, a hint that something different is coming. Perhaps the appointment of Mark Warburton as our 14th manager could be that something. After an undistinguished playing career at Non-league level, Warburton was forced to go in search of another profession to make his living. He took one thing from his playing career: a dislike for the tough training regime of one Jock Wallace, saying "he was a Marine. We had runs on sand-dunes, running until we threw up. I learned a lot from that, never treating a player that way." He became a financial Trader, selling all manner of securities. It was a high-pressure job being a Trader, where he was regularly in control of 10-figure sums. Warburton still coached part-time, but eventually said to his wife that, with a comfortable life secured, he wanted to try to carve out a career in coaching. He gave himself 10 years; 10 years to achieve something in the game. He funded a tour around Europe, watching coaching sessions at Sporting Lisbon, Ajax, Valencia, Barcelona and Willem II, in order to develop his coaching methodology. In 2005 he launched the NextGen series, a youth tournament with the aim of helping clubs replicate the Champions League experience for younger players. While Brentford manager, Warburton utilised this tournament by signing a number of promising players, including João Carlos Teixeira and Betinho (Sporting Lisbon), Alex Pritchard (Tottenham Hotspur) and Chuba Akpom, Nico Yennaris and Jon Toral (Arsenal). It requires a certain intelligence and business acumen to succeed in such a tough environment, and a degree of bravery to leave it behind; all attributes that will stand him in good stead for the Rangers job. The Rangers tradition has been one of victory and success. We are so used to 'winning', or at least fighting for a title, that it becomes the norm. When something becomes the norm, it seems like it becomes the defining prerequisite. We get so used to winning that when it stops, we question the basis of our support. We have been fortunate not to have tasted a sustained period without success, and with winning expected, our thoughts would naturally move to the 'entertainment' aspect. To me, one who watches football for the pure entertainment is a football purist. They dislike long-balls, negative tactics, time wasting, diving, fouling and other traits. They enjoy seeing the magical goals, high scoring games, passing along the ground, dribbling and technical skills. I would consider myself, in part, a purist. I can appreciate and enjoy the technical, tactical game as much as the next fan. But not when I watch Rangers. I'm there to see us do well. If that means playing out a monotonous, defensive game to avoid a defeat then so be it. In Warburton we have a pragmatist; but a pragmatist that plays an offensive game, always looking to attack an opponents greatest weakness. The wide players can hug the touchline or drift into pockets whenever the need arises. He displayed a ruthlessness in taking charge at Brentford, choosing to sack a number of coaches in order to stamp his authority on the team. Success followed. When Brentford made the step up to the grueling schedule of the Championship he was under no illusions of what was required, saying "we've got a lot of young players who will find their feet, but when you start a new job and move up you have to adapt to your new environment quickly because no allowances will be given." He acknowledges that a team can only play the type of game consistent with the players they have. At Brentford many were attacking, so Warburton encouraged offensive play, where "their running, passing and movement [was] frankly sublime in patches." If they loose the ball, it's all about doing their jobs quickly to begin playing again. The strategy is based on pace, both in defense to win the ball back, and in attack, to move with pace and creativity. Are we there to be entertained? Yes, but it's not the main aspect of our support. The entertainment is in seeing us do well, not in seeing the most expansive, creative football. We would all like to see fantastic football being played, but how often has it ever happened? We don't support a side because they entertain us, in the same way a fan doesn't support his side because they win most of the time. There are not many sides in world football that expect to win, never mind demand to win. Likewise, there are not many teams in world football that play the most beautiful, creative game. It almost belittles the fan if 'support' is dependent on success and entertainment. We demand excellence, both in conduct and performance. Excellence can take many forms, and doesn't necessarily imply great entertainment or winning football games. "Our Club cannot, and must not, get to the point where we celebrate mediocrity," writes King, and it is certainly not something we should ever accept, but our support is not dependent on any prerequisite; we don't choose to support Rangers. Warburton's finance background has fostered a more pragmatic, structured approach to his managerial outlook. Professionalism and attention to the smallest detail are key. From the outset he has in mind what his goals would be. In our case, he states that "this is not just about solidifying and steadying. This is about making significant progress in a designated period of time." Its about rebuilding the youth, using the youth, utilising the current squad, making the necessary changes and preparing the team to make the move forward. A big advocate of KPIs [Key Performance Indicators], Warburton always has an idea of the short, medium and long-term targets. This business-like approach has been missing for far too long. The old-boys network that pervades our club has been living on past glories. A lack of professionalism has been overlooked. We have gone from manager to manager, squad to squad, without building any long-term framework in order to build success. Warburton has the attributes to completely revamp and restructure our great club. And then there's Sir David Of Weir, the paragon of professionalism, a man with the heart to drag us ever on-wards by sheer force of will. Weir was never the most entertaining player, slow and cumbersome as he was, but he read the game expertly; doing nothing superfluous in his game, and thumping the ball out of play without a seconds thought to regroup his team and go again. He took no nonsense, neither from teammates nor opponents. This is a man we can get behind. When one looks closely at 'supporting' your club it is a strange emotion that bears only a tenuous relation to an admiration of skill or success. The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'support' as "Bear all or part of the weight of; hold up" -- all of which we have had to do again and again, the last few years especially. The dictionary also refers to "Be actively interested in and concerned for the success of (a particular sports team)". It's almost as if we have to endure the vicissitudes of our clubs fortune. This sums-up my experiences of being a Rangers supporter more accurately than being entertained. 'Supporting' a team is often a tense and dismal affair. The emotions are horribly one-sided. In Mark Warburton I see a future whereby the club can begin to rebuild. I won't say a 'bright' future, for every appointment carries a degree of risk. I am confident, however, that Warburton has the skills and attributes that we so badly need. It may take time, and it may be painful. I'm a relatively younger supporter, my Rangers memories only stretch back to the late 90's, but my overriding memories have not been of entertainment but of tension, nerves and relief of victory. The football has often been poor. And, to be honest, I wouldn't have it any other way. It's an incredibly powerful feeling being so intimately invested in the fortunes of a club. I'm not there to be entertained as such, and I'm not even there to see us win, although I do demand it. I see it as a duty; a duty passed on by my father, and something that needs to be passed on to future generations. King has set a target of 45,000 season tickets. This is unrealistic, and he knows it himself. It's unrealistic because the average season ticket sales over the last 10/15 years--excluding the last few years where they hover below 35,000--have been around 43,000. It's a challenge to the fans. "Our Club stands at a crossroads and the next season is critical to our future." King has hinted at future plans--and he certainly needs to be more specific and long-term--but the current focus has always been the appointment of a new Manager and the first-team squad, and the target of Premiership football. There is a "need to rebuild the first team squad [and] we must stop merely paying lip service to youth development. Auchenhowie must become the envy of all and it is equally important that Rangers recruiting systems are also fully restored after years of neglect." This requires money; this requires the supporters to step up. Our club is asking for financial assistance. Only an institutional investor would ask, 'What do I get in return?' I see it as a duty; a duty passed down through history. "We can only do this together. We must all invest in our Club’s future. This is the only way we will regain our pride, status, position and credibility. This is our Club, our time and we must make sure we succeed for the generations who have gone before and for those who will follow us."

Lewis MacLeod comment? I must have missed that! What was it?

He spoke well, in spite of the truly atrocious questions. (The female journalist had a good question regarding Jock Wallace -- Ooft!)