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Here's what gets me about Timmy tho - they claim to be 'left-wing' - well its fashionable at the moment - but their history shows that they supported the Nazi's during the war, they proclaim a love for a 'facist' (small 'F') religion - who's current leader was a member of 'Hitler Youth' and Paulo Di Cannio was treated like a God at Parkhead.... They really are a mixed up bunch.... Cammy F

I'll send you thro my cast offs brother Cammy F

Yes - extreme communism is as bad / violent as extreme facism - in fact, the 'left wing' politicians are as bad as facists as they want to take any freedom of speach and thought - if you don't agree with them, then you are a facist!!! The game against Livorno is going to be very interesting as they have been in trouble recently (just like us) for overtly political chanting at their games and Timmy has already been on their forums stoking up this game. Cammy F

Gazza, I have worn 'branded clothing' to the football since getting involved in the 'rave scene' in the late 80's. Does this equate me to a 'hooligan'? When I first started going to the football, the hooligan element wore denim jackets, jeans, scarves and Doc Martins, as did 90% of the people who went to the football. That is the reason that the 'casuals' looked for a new look, so they could 'stand out' and be 'noticed'. As fans / people have gotten better jobs which pay better money, they have started buying and wearing 'designer gear'. I don't think the majority do this to look like a casual or hooligan, they do it because its fashionable. As said above, thro the era's (skinheads, mods, punks, new romantic, rave, casuals) football and fashion have been linked and they will continue to be linked as both evolve. Cammy F

Fashion and football have ALWAYS been linked, especially since the ââ?¬Ë?skinheadââ?¬â?¢ craze in the late 60ââ?¬â?¢s early 70ââ?¬â?¢s. Read any book about football culture and there is always sections on the ââ?¬Ë?fashion wearââ?¬â?¢ for any particular era. This has developed since the ââ?¬Ë?casualââ?¬â?¢ scene erupted. As for Stone Island, Aquascutum, Paul & Shark gear etc being over-priced shit, you obviously havenââ?¬â?¢t bought / wore any of these clothes. They are fashionable, hard wearing and admittedly a uniform. But, any clothing can be called a ââ?¬Ë?uniformââ?¬â?¢ ââ?¬â?? 40,000 people wearing a Rangers top of a Saturday is ââ?¬Ë?uniformââ?¬â?¢ just like people wearing ââ?¬Ë?branded gearââ?¬â?¢. Cammy F - Paul & Shark Loyal RSC

http://www.football.co.uk/livorno/index.shtml http://www.partizan.co.yu/home.php?Jezik=en http://www.football.co.uk/auxerre/auxerre_beat_psg_78.shtml http://www.ucalgary.ca/~fisherm/maccabi_haifa_fc.html Cammy F

It was reported on the Scottish news and they talked to the Police about it. The Copper interviewed claimed that if the incident had happened at an SPL game / ground, the culprets would have been caught and delat with... Funnily enough, the largest Police Force in Scotland still haven't found the guy who thro the lighter at Fernando Ricksen at Torbett Towers.... Cammy F

Butcher and Gough... Cammy F

Craptics co-efficient and ranking will drop further once their run to 'Suville' is wiped from their 'ranking' (next year I believe)..... All I want is at least one decent trip - either Ajax or one of the Prague teams Cammy F

Isn't he currently at Millwall? Cammy F

But some decent trips Mon the Prague teams.... Cammy F

As you all know, I am a very peaceful man (make love not war and all that), but I can remember the Rangers fans 'dealing' with Dolly in the early/mid 80's at Ibrox. They were the top dogs on the park at the time and had defeated us 3-0 and were taking liberties on and off the pitch at the game. The Rangers fans assembled at the Broomie near the end of the game (the stadium actually emptied on the 85 minute mark - this was after our 2nd pitch invasion!) and all fans headed for the Broomie. When the Police let Dolly out, they were singing, dancin. jigging, taking liberties etc. Que a charge of the 'light blue's' and Dolly taking a pounding that lived with them for a long time. The result of this was about 5 years of Dolly coming to Ibrox, sitting on their hands and not uttering a word in fear of another doing.... Maybe a more violent person than me would say that another decent slapping is long overdue... !! Cammy F

Aye, Mo Ross does now own it, and has spent a lot of dosh doing the place up. We were paying �£7 yesterday for a pint of Stella, bottle of Corona, Morgans and coke and Vodka and lemonade - very decent prices! Cammy F

It does and good to see that the Tims are getting put in their place...... Cammy F

As we were thro early for the RST AGM (nice suit Frankie, pitty you were hungover tho!!!) we decided to spend pre-match in the Wee Rangers Club and we had a ball (even went back for a few post-match!). As visitors, we paid �£2.50 each for a 'day membership' and this was well worth it. The price of the drink is very reasonable and they have done the place up brilliantly. We were standing thro the back of the bar and that led to easy access to the bar (also helped that the barmaid from The Wallace works there now and recognised us and gave us her usual excellent service!!). Also had the opportunity to talk to The Goalie, John McGregor and Mo Ross before and after the match - all 3 happily mixed with the punters, posed for photos and signed autopraghs etc. We are seriously thinking off getting memberships for the club now! Cammy F

Do you have a link m8? Cammy F

Just read on another forum that 2 Airdrie fans turned up at the Airdrie v Gretna game dressed in full KKK outfits - the Police 'laughed off' the incident and it hasn't been reported in the rags. Now, imagine the outcry / reaction if 2 Rangers fans went to say Killie dressed in full KKK outfits.... Cammy F

I was at both the home and away legs the last time we played them and there was major trouble, instigated by their casuals at both games. At Ibrox, a section of their fans attacked Rangers fans in the Govan, this included woman and children. At one point, differing Feyenoord sections were fighting with each other In Feyenoord, the police in Amsterdam advised us not to travel to the game via train as we would likely be attacked at the station or on the way to the ground. We managed to get a lift from a supporters bus which was attacked on route. Once in the bus park, the Rangers fans were once again attacked by Feyenoord fans. All od the above appears to be acceptable under UEFA regulations, but hell mend you if you sing a wee song about the Pontiff... Cammy F

That is not the problem tho - plenty people buy and read this paper (non-Rangers fans) and may now believe that the bouncy (an innocent chant / reason to jump up and down in the wet / cold - that is why it originated) is now linked to a sectarian murder. Hence, our public image falls even FURTHER. These continued lies regarding our songs must be challanged. Cammy F

Taken form the letter section of Scotland on Sunday... Praise saved for Britannia LIKE Moira Gordon, I attended the Old Firm encounter at Parkhead and broadly concur with her opinion that the vocal offerings of the Rangers support showed significant improvement from previous form - not that there was much on-pitch achievement to encourage inspired lyricism from that quarter. However, it may not be clear to all that one of their apparent favourites, the Bouncy, Bouncy chorus, refers to the sectarian murder of Robert Hamill by a loyalist mob in Portadown in 1997. But as for Rule Britannia, only a curmudgeon would take umbrage at a rousing song eulogising a building society that offers a better rate of saving than Lionel Letizi or Allan McGregor. John McDonnell London ------------------------------------------------- Funny how we've been doing the bouncy since the 80's - either TIMMY is lying again, or we as a fan base are Mystic Meg and knew this murder was going to take place and decided to celebrate this before the event occured :ffs: I hope of shiney new PR Department are writing to SoS as we speak.... (pigs will fly, hell will freeze over etc). Cammy F

Just read on an Aberdeen forum that the words to this song are 'We're Red, You're dead, we're JUMPING ON YOUR HEAD'... so this song is perfectly acceptable but being up to your knees in F'in blood isn't - anyone care to tell me the difference here - well apart from the obvious that only one is sung by Rangers fans... Cammy F

Anyone BAR Feyenoord - their fans are complete scum..... Cammy F

Well, it's a mad 'Scotland' anyway.... We have a set of fans who fly a flag designed and created by a convicted IRA terrortist which was approved and (possibly) paid for by the club. We also have a set of fans who fly flags designed by Peadophiles, rapists and murderers in Peterhead jail (who receive payment for this). All these banners are welcome at Ibrox (as they are at their home stadiums) with open arms, yet an 'Ulster Scots' banner was going to be banned...... (bought, paid for by hard-working people). Also, the person who allows these banners to be flown at Ibrox has stated in conversation with a well known fanzine editor that he believes that 'We Are The People' is a sectarian song / chant / phrase. McIntyre you are not welcome at OUR club... Cammy F

Anyone hear the 'we're red, we're (something else I couldn't catch), we're jumping on your heads (or something similar)... Red Ultras = Always Ultras Cammy F

I remember that Tugay played as sweeper if that helps Cammy F - Away To Get My Thinking Cap On Loyal RSC