CammyF

Outwith Dessers and Lawrence, what other players have scored domestic goals for us this season? They may be "pish" but at least they are contributing (and fit for selection) The manager did sign a number 10 but plays him wide left. He also signed a number 9 but deems him not worthy of starting games. Seems the problems aren't really Dessers and Lawrence, maybe the problem is we have no alternatives or the person selecting them, coaching them and giving them roles in the team? Pre-match on Thursday ; PC - Dessers and Lawrence you'se are starting today. CD / TL - naw thanks Gaffer, that Gonzo chap thinks we"re pish, we'll sit this one out, start someone else.

We have scored a total of 12 league goals this season, half of them in 1 game against Ross County. Both Dundee teams have scored more goals than us.

I agree he should be getting more out of what he has at his disposal, it's one of the first things he said he'd do when he signed. To be fair to him, initially he did as I think we all will agree. Said previously his best result and performance was achieved with a team including Tav, Barisic, Davies, Cifuentes, Lammers, Dessers, Goldson and Roofe. However, after getting to top of the league something happened. He tweaked the way we were playing and started to pick some questionable starting 11"s and it all fell apart. We all hoped that once he got his own players on board this would change. It didn't. He started this season with the exact same players that ended last season (IIRC only Barron made the initial games). Pre-season was a mess in terms of getting players over the line and the pre-season games threw up.as many red flags as Beales did rhe season before but most fans seemed happy to ignore them. We are now nearing the end of October and we are still hearing ot will "click" and players are "new". Performances and results are shocking with no sign of them improving. It's groundhog day, it happens season after season. Add this to lack of leadership on and off the pitch, critical roles still not filled and growing rumours our financial state is worse than we are being told, its a worrying time to be a Rangers fan. Firstly, the board are to blame for this current situation and have shown they are not fit for purpose. Their recruitment has been horrendous with arguably only SG and Bisgrove being successful. We can spend days, weeks, months discussing the pro's and con's of Clement and Koppen but until we have the correct people running the club then this is just going to get worse.

We did, that's why I said it was a pity we couldn't tempt him back.

He did, and is another player he inherited. Pity we couldn't tempt him back this season.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it as I am to mine. I said at the time and remain of the same opinion that the signing of Igamane for the outlay was incorrect. The manager must have approved this and approved the decision to go into the season with 1 fit and available striker (whom was also just back from an injury), a decision that has bitten squarely on the arse I'm sure we'll all agree. Igamane doesn't look capable (at the moment) at this level, so the entire burden of 60 games lies on Dessers shoulders, that is completely unfair on him. The stats show that if Desssrs doesn't score, we don't score. So as well as having the full responsibility of being our only number 9, he has the added responsibility of being the only player who regularly scores goals, again completely unfair. The overall strategy sounds fine, but the proof is in the pudding. I've yet to be 100% convinced on any of the Koppen/Clement signings. Mentioned this previously, we need to look at Bassey, Aribo and Kamara as the template. No player Koppen / Clement have aigned appear to be as good as those three or likely to be sold for the profit of those 3. Those 3 were strong, aggressive, physical and skillful all attributes we are crying out for.

Well, that's down to one person and one person only. How long do we suffer before we make a change?

But Gerrard and Gio had options as to who played number 9 and they all brought something different to the team. Morelos - strong and could score. DeFoe - most natural finisher we've had since McCoist. Roofe - best finisher we've had since McCoist. During 55 season we had those 3 plus Kent, Aribo, Tav, Arfield all chipping in with goals and assists. You could even add in Barisic assists as well. We've gone from that to a situation where if Dessers (taking away any discussions of his ability) doesn't score, we don't score. And we're wondering why we can't win games? It's being marketed as a "rebuild" but in reality is cost-cutting and points to our financial situation being worse than we all think.

Just had a wee catch up with a mate and inevitably the conversation quickly veered onto our beloved Rangers. When discussing Clement's time my mate mentioned that Clement's best result and performance was away to Betis which is hard to disagree. The team that night included Davies, Barisic, Cifuentes, Dessers, Lammers and Roofe. In fact, his best spell and run as Rangers manager featured those mentioned above. So what happened? How did we go from beating Betis away and sitting top of the league (and being favourites to win it) to where we are now?

I really haven't - we were never in a position to squander £1M+ on a project in the summer (no matter who he was or position he plays). What we needed were starters who were going to contribute from game one. If Igamane was a free (or a development fee) I could have understood it. The extent of Danilos initial injuries were known and we knew he'd struggle to make the start of the season so by using £1M on Igamane Clement chose to go into season with 1 fit striker no matter how you paint it. That 1 fit striker was also coming back from injury picked up in SCF.

So who's fault is it? Clement and Clement alone decided to start this season with 1 fit striker and spent over £1M on a player who he told us wasn't ready to start. That £1M+ would have been better spent on a striker (or a number 6) who could have contributed before October (Igamane still isn't contributing and Danilo is still injured). We are basically trying to win cups, leagues and progress in Europe with 1 striker. Why can't Clement be held fully to blame / responsible for that?

That's been the story for most of the season along with no other player chipping in goals with any regulatory. Like it (or him) or not, over the last 5 years Tav has been our main source of assists and has also scored an incredible amount of goals. These have dried up and its (mainly) because the way Clement plays. We haven't replaced those assists and goals. Tav shouldn't be playing especially if he is curtailed from attacking, that's his strength and it benefits the team. I just can't see what Clement is trying to do style / formation wise.

Has had two windows and has chosen not to sign one (outwith a "prospect') and then decided to start this season with one fit #9.

We wouldn't know until we tried it but I don't know of any of our CBs have played in a 3 (maybe Souttar for Scotland)? But we all know Clement is going to change his formation. Also, I'd be playing Balogun in defence as think he's the best natural defender we have.

He is - still doesn't mean we'll see him starting constantly ahead of Dessers this season. He has suffered 2 serious injuries and hasn't played for months.

I think we'll be lucky if we see Danilo back this season.

Very good analysis from CJ Novo

I was thinking more of Aribo, Bassey and Kamara. Combined cost less than £1M and sold for in excess of £30M. The players you listed cost in excess of £10M and will be lucky (under current form) to break even on them.

Yet to see their quality. Cortes constantly injured Diomande hot and cold Iganane (never heard of him) can't dislodge Dessers Jefte about the best out the bunch but not as good as prime Barasic Diomande and Cortes cost us £4.5M each - hardly seems value for money at the moment. So I don't get your point at all

Again, good coaching of average players will also only get us so far. It's a difficult task but we need to find quality players who are young, ambitious and willing to use Rangers as a stepping stone to top leagues. The hard part is identifying these players and signing them before any other club discovers them.

As well as statistically, it's also obvious the performance levels have dropped dramatically and are about as bad / worse than what we witnessed under Beale.

Jefte as he was the less rubbish than the rest.

Or realistic?

Clement is to blame of our inability to win games, not Aberdeen. This is now his team, his signings, his tactics, his training, his fitness regime etc. 1 solitary goal away from home says it all, that's nothing to do with Aberdeen and all to do with Clement/players.

Or the current board take a hands-off approach and hire the correct people to run the club. Either way, we need change and we need it now.