Super_Ally

Hearts pen - correct decision Webster "handball" - correct decision Celtic goal - incorrect. Helped Celtic Ki Dive - No pen. Correct deicision. Decision not to book wrong though. Helped Celtic. Black handball - Not seen it myself but on the radio suggested the decision not to give him second yellow was correct. As stated not seen it but will say it helped Hearts for now. Skacel offside - at 1-0 (I think, need to check) Skacel was given offside when he wasn't and was in behind last defender. Helped Celtic. Missed any major incidents? From that though, I think it's clear to see that if anything, Celtic got the rub of the green with decisions yet are acting like they got done. It's a joke.

Posted by a guy on FF. Seems that politicians agree.

This must be another rule where the referees can apply their own interpretation then because there have been hundreds of incidents where it could be argued the hand ball was not deliberate yet penalties were given and most agreed it was the right call.

Is this "deliberate" rule in the laws as there are numerous pens given when handball was not deliberate but positioning/movement of the arms was not in what would be construed a natural position.

Celtic near enough playing basketball and Andy Walker is on Sky saying it's never a penalty. He claims that it needs to be deliberate by the laws of the game. Is that true or is Walker being disingenuous?

Not followed the thread closely as the financial stuff if often to dull for me to try and get my head around. But the little I have followed the thread has not really been "welcomed" and you can hardly judge a whole forum off one thread. FWIW I am more on your side. I am quite unsure why we have a right to know so much about this potential investor outwith his role as an investor. I dont follow BH's line of thinking but admitted at the outset some of this is beyond me. Still quite an amazing generalisation you have made though.

6 breaches? 3 prior to today. 1 for running on the pitch and abusing the ref. 1 for purportedly abusing the ref in the tunnel, questioning his impartiality (to put it mildly). 1 for breaching SPL guidelines on twitter. Could be as many as 6. Definitely 5 though.

Comment was partly tongue in cheek. They might "apply" to everyone, yet despite high profile incidents only one community seems to be affected. Or more rightly only one is being ignored. Maybe down to the media too who only seem to make a fanfare when it's Rangers fans, prods or anti-catholic. Somewhere there is a bias in the system. It might not be the police but then that means its the PF or whoever it is who actually charges people. You must admit that the incident craig highlights is a farce?

The only controversial decisions went for them really yet they've managed to turn it into a hardluck story for them once again. Add in Lennon's atrocious behaviour that will almost certainly go unpunished/be punished lightly and it gets quite annoying having this pish peddled every time they are fairly beaten.

AYe, never saw that at the time but lots of mention of that elsewhere in cyber space. Some suggesting the ref was holding up two fingers as if to say 2 handballs but not seen that yet myself either.

Awful quality but no one can compare this to Webster's non-handball:

And taigs can vote too, no?

Craig, some fans are reporting it and have spoken about retweeting it to the police but again as I am not on Twitter I dont know if that has happened.

Not on twitter been seen screenshots on FF. Disgraceful. Still, the new internet/footy laws only apply to one set of fans.

The other thing that was different was that the ball clearly strikes Ledley's hands and clearly doesn't strike Websters. Comparing apples with oranges. Media have done their job already ensuring the decisions are controversial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GOem9bqAnwA Lennon's disgraceful post match behaviour plus replay of the non-penatly.

Offside?

Disagree. Hands weren't up in his face but out to the side of his body. Not up protecting himself but out blocking the ball. A lot of media types (outwith the sky commentators) agreeing. And finally on radio scotland admitting Webster didn't handle. Edit: radio clyde. And brilliant a few saying Ki dived too. Brilliant. Telling the truth for once.

Notice there were no slowed down replays of the Webster "handball": And talk of "if you give one you have to give both".

Commentators telling lies re: Webster "penalty". At least McCann telling the truth in the studio. Ledley penalty def. Hands out to the side clearly blocking the ball. The webster one that the sky people are desperately clutching at straws with, it doesn't even look like it touches Websters hands. Oh and Hooper is offside for their goal.

The arrogance of that club. When Killie beat them, before they had any other trophies in their grasp that "cost them the treble". Well came back and bit them on the arse big time. Only won the SPL because of administration and Naisy's injury too. Lennon still never won a "big" game. Killie the other week doesn't get rid of their bottlers tag. They were always going to win it eventually but the big game in the league was Ibrox.

Fucking biased commentators. "Celtic will be raging with the ref". For giving the correct decision. A clear handball. And now trying to pretend Webster handled in the box when it doesnt look like he did. Get it up you!

Watching sky sports yesterday and someone was talking about Balotelli. Saying he had great temperament and that if you had a last minute penalty to win the game he'd be the man you'd want to take it. In the same vein, if you've hit a ball to the back post and you have a man waiting at the back , completely unmarked, open goal then Ki is the last man you would want it to be. Hearts leading a charmed life there.. how the fuck did Celtic not scramble that in!