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have to agree with calscot above. as much as i would like to see smith play boyd, that he doesn't bend his will to egos, and can do it whilst everyone continues to respect and often like him, says a lot for his ability as a leader.
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i'll suggest we should have turned down the bid: we should have turned down the bid, there was no need to sell him.
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language's purpose is to convey meaning; if it's understood, its done its job. hard to make a clear extended point or argument with text speak, right enough. that said, why we feel the right to take the piss out of new members like that instead of just asking them to speak more clearly is beyond me. intellect doesn't necessarily heal ignorance or just general bad manners it would seem.
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thought it was quite telling when he said "its a sad day" - those kind of senteces tend to end "when we would do something like this" but it didnt. i think he realised he had a line to toe. as a captain you have to be gutted when you sell your best players, especially players that dont want to leave. nothing has more clearly stated the level of our current ambition. yet every fan i have spoken to not online things its a great deal. so who knows. was also quite funny when he said "i didnae mean it" like a wee boy gettting told off.
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the question isnt whether it makes good financial sense, but whether it was the right thing to do.
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asprilla was phenomenal.
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16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
i think the problem is that murray has been a charismatic and succesful leader. charismatic and succesful leaders tend to polarise opinion - they dont drift in & out of power they tend to take it or lose it in whirlwinds of histrionics, they are despotised or sainted. what it tends to be impossible to do is to discuss charismatic and succesful leaders sensibly - there is too much hope & fear bound up with their will. if i can finally get some effing sleep i think a discussion of murray, and the general difficulty of having thoughtful, charitable and critical discussions about murray, would make a good article for the site. im sure i am not the only one who has felt compelled to portray murray more badly than i feel simply for some contrast to what i feel is too rosy a picture. this divisive tendency, though, just makes things worse. hmm. anyway. -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
how could he afford to buy us a drink with all of his own money he is eternally pouring into the club? -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
if murray gave me free booze at the games i would promise never to question him again! -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
well, thats the point isnt it. as soon as you criticise one aspect of murrays management of the club you immediately get labelled as a rabid murray hater, thinks he is a tyrant, or whatever. murray has made plenty of good decisions lately like the ones calscot mentioned - but that doesnt make him immune from criticism, and it doesnt make you some sort of extremist to point it out. -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
dont think anyone is saying he is a tyrant m8 - this is the problem, you cant criticise at all otherwise you get labelled an extremist who thinks he is evil or something. -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
the more they do that, though, the more they look like to the average fan like troublemakers. who has the biggest voice fills the most paper columsn and dictates the common opinion - and its still murray, unfortunately. -
its more disgusting that he is right.
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16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
yup. i think murrays relationship with the rst highlights this actually. he knows the rst have a long way to go because of this - looking into the clubs affairs and questioning murray seem like the same thing, but to the common, only looking at the table fan, this seems like extremism. this murray knows. -
reading the website it looks like they are trying to hype this: biggest fee for a scottish player, massive move etc. as if its some great piece of news. smiths "everyone agrees it is a great fee for a fullback" rung ominous to me, and it seems as if this is going to be the party line.
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16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
yup. no, i thought it would have been taken as a given that i agreed with you, i was just venting some murray frustration in your topic. its that you have to, in articles and analysis, point responsibility back murraywards that annoys me. that you are going against the grain is what seems so absurd to me. -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
it absolutely doesnt frankie. david murray OWNS rangers, just like you or i own a car, or a house. if he has run into arrears, then its ultimately his problem. now i know you are talking pragmatically - but this idea that the customers should be the ones caring about the companys debt is just wrongheaded. but he has essentially palmed off his responsibility onto the supporters with cute phrases like "everyone knows the current realities", but they arent *our* realities. they are his. constantly pointing to the debt he created as a reason why X,Y & Z are happening, and not only expecting us to *tolerate* but support him in it is ridiculous. we absolutely did NOT have to sell Alan Hutton - anyone painting a reality other than "David Murray/Walter Smith just wanted the money" is just buying into the whole cunningly handed down language. the fact that we didnt have to sell alan hutton can be demonstrated from the impossibility of knowing when all our financial plans were made, the financial plans that dont see us shut down, how much alan hutton would be worth. my original comments werent aimed at your analysis of the situation, which is correct, but really just an affirmation of the ridiculousness of it. i can accept we are in dire financial straights, i can accept that rangers will always be more than a product to me: but if alan hutton is to be sold then the high heid yins should be coming out grovelling to the fans for doing it, not just matter of factly stating it and expecting everyone just to get on with it. -
16.5 Million Reasons why Alan Hutton will Leave Rangers
bmck replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
people seem to forget this is NOT our debt. this is david murrays debt. as fans it is none of our concern. its like caring about someone elses credit card bill. im dismayed. -
i dont care about celtic, i am just so gutted we are selling one of the few players who seems to desperately wants to play for us. our ambitions have been systematically lowered and we have no avenue of response: other than perhaps the rst. are the rst going to say anything about all this do you think frankie?
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^ with judicious editing even mladnoveic looked great, but some of this says he certainly has talent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJNYfGNqTRE&feature=related
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^ agreed. "we all agree that 8 million is a fantastic offer for a fullback" smith said.
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i think this whole idea that we would force (sorry, strongly encourage) someone who wants to play for us out the door is more damaging for the club as a whole than any effect it will immediately have on the team.
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a mans less of a man if he cant change his mind about things:D
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thats a decent argument. but one of the reasons we havent seen him in a strong midfield is because he is so constantly injured. and both arteta and buffel have played in a midfield with ferguson, so they weren that bad.