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I also don't agree with the question about the team you support. Should not come into it.

Last question difficult, most could have been first or second. Hope it concentrates minds at the top.

This is the rule. ,Under the Scottish FA's new Judicial Panel Protocol, a player can be suspended for two games if they are found to "cause a match official to make an incorrect decision and/or support an error of judgement on the part of a match official by an act of simulation." The two-game punishment is the maximum penalty available.' I would have thought according to this, Samaras would have been cited after the ICT game.

It would be interesting to know who actually reported this.

Put this in the other thread if you think it doesn't need a new one.

Tom English: â??Paul Murrayâ??s bid was well-meaning but not based in realityâ?? Published on Sunday 4 December 2011 01:32 PAUL Murray, the former non-executive director of Rangers, raised his head above the parapet in The Scotsman yesterday when expressing his concerns about the way the club is being run by Craig Whyte, his old foe from the takeover process earlier in the year. This column has given short shrift to Murray in the past â?? and especially to his cohort, Alastair â??No Surrenderâ? Johnston, the great show-boater of the old guard. That is not to dismiss Murrayâ??s concerns over Whyte. Heâ??s entitled to be uncertain about Rangersâ?? future and worried about Whyteâ??s stewardship. There is so much secrecy and inconsistency surrounding Whyte that cynicism is not just an understandable instinct, but a necessary one. The contradictions are many. In October, Whyte gave an interview to STV in which he stated that he nothing to hide in his professional life. An hour later a BBC investigation revealed that Whyte had been disqualified from being a company director for seven years. At the outset of his ownership he rubbished the possibility that Rangers might go into administration. Now he is saying that it has always been an option. He said from day one that he would appeal should the HMRC decision go against the club, but he appears to have changed his mind on that one. In the wake of the BBC documentary he stated that he was going to waste no time in suing the broadcaster, but it seems he has not taken that step yet. He might yet, of course. There is a suspicious air around Whyte and much of it is of his own making, born out of his determination to keep his business affairs as private as possible. When he is asked to name a couple of his companies that he is particularly proud of and then refuses to name them, people are entitled to wonder what heâ??s all about. The mystery creates an information vacuum that then gets filled with speculation. Informed speculation, some of it. But the fact is that, when it comes to Whyte (his money and his motives), a lot of what is out there is little more than guesswork. His merits as Rangersâ?? owner can only be judged in time. This is where this column and Murray go our separate ways because there are things that Murray says that just donâ??t stand up to any kind of scrutiny. First of all, Murray expresses surprise at the talk of Rangers, potentially, going into administration. â??I am puzzled that administration is even being discussed,â? he said. â??The HMRC tax tribunal will not deliver a decision until well into next year so at the moment there is no tax liability to pay.â? Puzzled at administration being discussed? Hold on a second, there. Johnston, his big mate on the old board, was talking about administration away back in April. In fact, he got himself embroiled in a controversy about whether or not he stated the club could, in a worst-case scenario, actually go bust. â??Yes, if there is an excessive (HMRC) judgment against us then we might not be in a position to pay it,â? said Johnston on 1 April. â??But I never said the club would go bust as a result of it. The very worst thing that could happen is that we lose the case and, as a result, could be looking at going into administration.â? So it was OK for Johnston (and by extension, Murray) to talk about administration but, when Whyte does it, Murray is â??puzzledâ?. Heâ??ll have to explain that one. And, while he is at it, he might enlighten us further on his supposed counter-bid for the club and why he waited and waited and waited before he did something, which, effectively, was nothing. According to Whyte, it amounted to a â??five line e-mail sent from his Blackberryâ? when the Whyte deal was as good as done. Sir David Murray, it is understood, gave it no credence whatsoever, nor did Lloyds Bank. And nor would Johnston have given it the time of day had he applied his own rules to his mateâ??s offer. Johnston wanted transparency, but the Murray bid supposedly involved a £25 million share issue underwritten by a businessman whose name he would not reveal, with other backers coming on board as well. He wouldnâ??t name them either. The â??bidâ? also stated that Lloyds would only be paid off in stages, this despite Johnston having earlier stated that a prerequisite of any takeover was that Lloyds were paid off in full and removed from the Rangers landscape permanently. Murrayâ??s solution to the HMRC issue was to get Sir David to pay whatever bill came the clubâ??s way. Lovely idea, but unless he is an expert in hypnosis there was no way Paul Murray was going to get the then owner to agree to that. So his â??bidâ? was probably well-meaning but not based in reality. Meanwhile, Whyte was ploughing on and doing a deal. Itâ??s not a deal that Paul Murray or Johnston like and Whyte is not a man they have faith in, but the alternative was that Sir David kept the club â?? and they didnâ??t want that either. The fact is that, when Johnston came in as chairman, the mission statement he set out for himself was to find a new owner who would liberate the club from the grip of Lloyds Bank. Johnston found nobody. He failed. Paul Murray failed, too. He had his chance to buy the club and he didnâ??t take it. He sat and waited and came up with far too little, far too late. â??Everything we said has come home to roost,â? said Murray. â??I donâ??t take any pleasure from that. . . Talking about administration, being pursued by suppliers and the possibility of a fit and proper investigation at the SFA. . . itâ??s humiliating and embarrassing.â? Yes, itâ??s troubling, no doubt about it. But there was no nirvana option available to Rangers. The club had to accept Whyteâ??s offer or stick with Sir David and live with the consequences. There was no third way worthy of consideration. Sniping from the sidelines is understandable. For sure, Whyte needs to be scrutinised given the potential horrors that await the club. But to Paul Murray we ask: â??What would you have done?â? Once the attempted brainwashing of Sir David into accepting liability for a £49m tax debt ended in failure, what was the alternative? And the answer is, there wasnâ??t one.

One things for sure, if Whyte was the owner of Septic, we would be laughing our socks off.

Mcgregor Bartley Goian Whittaker Broadfoot Davis Edu Wylde Aluko Jelavic Bendiksen

Something wrong with the timeline. McLaughlin was on the BBC National News before 4 o' clock, talking about an SFA Investigation and sanctions.

Ex-Directors like Paul Murray are easy for stories. Any Journalist worth their salt, would be questioning D.Murray and D.Muir.

We haven't scored in the last 2 League games, and more worrying, we are not creating chances. I can't see Ally changing much in midfield, so I predict another dire game, with more long balls, and Dunf'line showing us how to pass a ball. So it'll be 1-0 with a pen. [Please prove me wrong Rangers and Ally] Glass Half Empty Loyal.

Doesn't mean his questions are not relevent. If these ex-directors are still shareholders, the AGM[?] should be interesting.

Rangers face Euro ban unless accounts are signed off by independent auditor Dec 2 2011 Keith Jackson TOP BRASS at UEFA last night warned Rangers face expulsion from European football next season unless the club's financial house is put in order. Record Sport can reveal that as things stand, the SPL leaders would be denied an £18million ticket into the Champions League even if Ally McCoist led his side to a fourth consecutive league title - but Rangers sources insist they still have four months to ensure their accounts are signed off and submitted to the SFA ahead of the March 31 deadline. The Ibrox club have breached UEFA president Michel Platini's tough new Financial Fair Play Regulations by publishing their latest set of account WITHOUT having them signed off by an independent auditor. On Wednesday night, the club announced their annual financial figures for the year ending on June 30 to the PLUS Market but, for the first time in the club's history, the figures were not approved by appointed accountants. Edinburgh firm Grant Thornton have refused to discuss why they have not signed them off but UEFA have made it clear Rangers will be denied entry into the Champions League or the Europa League unless their accounts are rubber-stamped before the end of the current campaign. It's understood Rangers have until December 31 to publish a fresh set of figures and then lodge them with Companies House in Edinburgh. But if those results are not given a clean bill of health by the auditors, the club's chances of being granted a licence in time for next season will be damaged further. Although the situation would then become ever more serious, the stricken club believes the vital date for Euro approval will not arrive until next March. A UEFA statement read: "Glasgow Rangers FC, as with any club participating in UEFA competitions, will have to go through a licensing process which the national association in question manages. "Subsequently, the national association (not UEFA), the SFA in this case, will assess whether or not the club has fulfilled the mandatory licensing criteria. "This will take place in March/April. If the answer is yes, the club can take part in UEFA competitions next season and if not, they won't receive a licence." The SFA, who last night announced their own probe into Rangers owner Craig Whyte, are already aware of the breach in Platini's policy. They are now bracing themselves for the potential fall-out should they be forced to freeze a member club out of European football. The Hampden beaks refused to comment on the situation last night but, as things stand, they would have to turn Rangers down flat. UEFA's Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations article 47 spells out the need for all financial results to be signed off by auditors. It says: "Annual financial statements must be audited by independent auditors." And last night an SFA insider informed Record Sport that Rangers will have to "work extremely hard" between now and the spring if they are to pass UEFA's criteria. The source said: "When Rangers submitted their application for this season they were up front about a number of financial issues they were dealing with. "They were in dispute with the tax man but this was declared and, as it was a legitimate dispute, it was allowed and they still satisfied the criteria. "But if they do not satisfy the criteria this time then they won't get a licence for Europe. "There is a lot of work to do before they can qualify. Right now Rangers and the SFA are in a difficult position. The club has an obligation to provide a signed set of accounts and if they are unable to do so then their application cannot be approved. "It really is becoming quite a serious mess."

Surely our running costs [wages] have increased because of the new contracts given to Davis etc. When we come to sell these players, we will be in a better position to maximise their true worth because of these contracts. It might not show in the books, but we will be better off in the future than we would have been.

Accurate, so don't expect to see it in any Scottish Media Outlet.

They are building momentum, which brings confidence, no matter that they have had a lotta luck, we are now only 4 points in front. Tomorrow is a big game for them, and perhaps us as well. A win against the likes of AM will give another boost to their confidence. While we seem to be in a rut, and our key players are either injured or have gone stale. A good win could give us a spring in our step again, but there are only 3 weeks until the 28th. This is where Ally needs to show his credentials as a Manager, probably for the first time.

Sorry but this does nothing for me.

Just when the reputation of the Scottish Manager, in the 'best' League in the world the EPL is soaring [ok not Kean], Scottish teams are turning to across the Irish Sea. With Hibs appointing Fenlon, I make that 6 Scots managing in the SPL, the same as in the EPL. Is it the end game for the likes of Calderwood, Hughes, Jefferies etc.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/281873-sone-aluko-set-for-rangers-move-in-24-hours/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Aluko could sign in the next 24 hours??

David Oâ??Connor is president of the Association of Scottish Police Superintendents. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/david_o_connor_the_law_is_now_clearly_defined_1_1979321 ''Thereâ??s not been a lot said about the second part of the bill that will allow closer policing of social media networks, but a lot of the problems that weâ??re seeing are now moving away from the public place like the High Street or Main Street and into the back room or bedroom.'' Sounds more like the old East Germany than part of the UK.

Could it not have been settled before this.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/281449-rangers-agree-terms-with-sone-aluko-but-compensation-issue-remains/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Aluko agrees terms, compensation holding things up.

Might be better to stop trying to get him back, just give him a few months rest.

Seemingly he started the game today and had to come off during the first half.

Traynor tells the truth. http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/jimtraynor/2011/11/we-time-its-up-stood-all-gamen.html#more It's time we all stood up for our game By jim Traynor on Nov 21, 11 06:24 AM in THE time has come for the silent majority to make some noise. In fact, they need to bring back the thunder. On the day he was appointed manager of Celtic that's exactly what Neil Lennon said he wanted to hear again at Parkhead. And it's precisely what this club are in need of right now. Lennon, Peter Lawwell, Scottish football - all of us - would like to hear this thunder more often. Preferably every time that tedious little mob who call themselves the Green Brigade pipe up in support of the IRA. They are a disgrace to proper protesters and could be described as one of the downsides to freedom of speech. But it would be rich irony if real Celtic fans drowned out their nauseating attempts to laud atrocity. Of course they claim they are merely celebrating their Irish heritage but their argument is fatuous. They were given a platform and they have abused it. Let's be absolutely clear on this. This lot have done nothing to promote or protect Celtic's Irish heritage. They have, however, blackened it. And this notion that they enliven a match, that they somehow add atmosphere, is preposterous. They are a bunch of silly little boys who are being easily led by one or two who fancy themselves as Parkhead politicos. These people would be hilarious if they weren't tarnishing the image of a good and great club and, by extension, the country. Despite what some of them may believe, the Green Brigade are not some kind of political movement. They aren't railing against injustice and they most certainly do not speak for anyone other than their own twisted little circle. They are an obnoxious, stubborn, bunch. But because they have been tolerated by people who should have known better they believe themselves to have some kind of importance, when in reality you wouldn't give them house room. And now we have them dismissing Strathclyde Police, who would rather chat than charge, by saying they don't want to meet. Unbelievable. But what's worse is the cops will probably keep trying for a quiet word when they should simply take the offenders out and lock them up. Apparently they and other groups of Celtic fans believe they have been singled out ahead of the government's offensive behaviour bill. Bilge. Somehow, I just can't see Alex Salmond cutting short an emergency meeting on the growing financial crisis to ask what was being done about the Green Brigade. Besides, if that had been the case then those members of this gaggle would have been in the jail by now instead of receiving invites to come round for tea and biscuits. But then again, maybe none of us outside of this tiny group - so, that's just about everybody in the country then - know who we're dealing with. Speaking after Assistant Chief Constable Campbell Corrigan had asked for the meeting a bloke called Joe O'Rourke, of the Celtic Supporters Association, told the Glasgow Evening Times: "We, as part of the FAC (Fans Against Criminalisation) group were asked to attend a meeting with ACC Campbell Corrigan, but following his comments, the groups representing the Celtic supporters felt it was inappropriate for us to attend. "Mr Corrigan was reported to be summoning us for a slap on the wrist, well he obviously doesn't know who he is dealing with." Excuse me? Joe, who are ya? The same question should be asked of the Green Brigade. Why is it in this country we're always bending over backwards to accommodate the most troublesome minority groups, while decent citizens can be hounded for even the most minor offence, such as failing to say thank you to the druggie who has just mugged you for your wallet? If he breaks into your house and you lay him out, you'll end up in the dock while he's being looked after by doctors while seriously ill patients who have worked all their days and paid their dues are lying on beds in corridors waiting for help. Then he'll be mollycoddled by a team of social workers who ought to be out there protecting innocent children from abusive parents. The wrong people are always put first and it's happening with this lot at Parkhead. They are openly defiant and clearly determined to continue their celebrations of atrocities even when their own club are pleading with them to stop. Even so, Celtic were appalled to discover their fans had been reported to a UEFA delegate for offensive chants and instead of raging at those who had sounded off, the club were annoyed by the police action. It was as though the match commander had done something awful when, in fact, Eddie Smith did his job. But what does he get for that? Slated by halfwits. Half-baked activists in hoodies who have been told they aren't wanted but who are too thick to get the message. They are repeat offenders and Celtic should be banning more of them instead of asking why the police have decided to start reporting their behaviour. The police are not to blame and the main instigators should have been singled out long ago leaving Celtic's people free to work with teenage troubadours who don't really know much about what or why they are singing. They could yet become the kind of supporters Lawwell and Lennon want. Actually the entire game could do more to encourage the right kind of fan because at a time when the national sport is under siege, supporters are being kicked out of grounds for standing up. A number of Motherwell fans were thrown out of Pittodrie on Saturday because they were on their feet having a good time. Some others complained and the stewards and police hauled a bunch of fans out of their places and marched them to the exits. These fans had travelled from Lanarkshire to Aberdeen in support of their team only to be pushed out onto the street after having paid to get in. Neil Doncaster of the SPL will have to explain how that helps bring people back to football. Anyone who goes to a match and gets annoyed when someone else leaps up to celebrate a goal or a piece of skill shouldn't really be there. It's the cinema you want. But what happened to Motherwell's fans on Saturday is just further proof the game is heading in the wrong direction.