aweebluesoandso 290 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 They have no interest in football, they infiltrated the Celtic support to further their agenda of Republican terrorist support. If it kicks off in Ireland again which they would hope it does. The Green Brigade will be on hand to supply aid and logistics to the murderous campaigns imo. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amms 0 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'm going to be fairly unpopular here but I've a degree of sympathy with aspects of what happened on Saturday. I also think the law regarding football supporters and how it is currently being enforced is draconian and over-the-top. So I broadly support an organisation protesting about it. The author's point about them applying for a licence to march and it being rejected is valid. But why was it rejected, who decides who can and who can't make protests in this country now? I don't particularly like the Green Brigade. Aside from being a generation removed from them and feeling every year of it there is a political side to them I strongly disagree with and that's before we get into their horrific choice of team they support. But if it's possible to ignore that for a minute then I'm actually in broad agreement with the point they were trying to make. In my opinion they should have been allowed to march to Parkhead if they applied too. That's surely a democratic right for all of us, eroding that, even for people we dislike, is a slippery slope. Likewise the Union Bears, I can see no good reason why their march was banned. Surely the police should be there to facilitate people's right to protest, not prevent it? That they chose to ignore the ban is asking for trouble, however I'm not sure they weren't right too. The law is an ass on this, somebody needs to highlight that. On top of that the police response does seem to have been over-the-top. Was their no other crime in Glasgow on Saturday afternoon that hundreds of officers could be mobilised to contain a similar amount of football supporters? The minute you put a football scarf on you are viewed differently by the law, many of the rights you believe you have are removed. Any of us who has attended football matches over the years will have experienced this, and it has got worse recently. The Green Brigade clearly have members who are utter pricks. But I'm kind of siding with them on this, as uncomfortable as that is to say publicly. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 The call comes after allegations of heavy-handed behaviour by police in dealing with a weekend march by members of the so-called Green Brigade Club officials have also said they will be writing to Strathclyde Police asking for a report on the events before Saturday's home match against Aberdeen. A club statement said: "The safety and well-being of Celtic supporters is of paramount importance to the Club. "The Club is very concerned to see imagery of Saturday’s march by members of the Green Brigade from Gallowgate to Celtic Park, and subsequent claims by supporters of police harassment and heavy-handed policing. "This is an issue which the Club takes very seriously. "Once again we would urge any supporter who feels that they have been a victim of such harassment to contact the Club with details in order that we can formally raise such matters with Strathclyde Police. "We should remind supporters that the Club has set up a working group, which is independently chaired, to establish a Complaints Review Panel to oversee the complaints’ process and improve transparency. "Any suggestion of collusion between the Club and Strathclyde Police is, quite frankly, ludicrous. "The Celtic support has a long and well-established reputation for good behaviour and everyone is very proud of that and keen to ensure that it continues. "In the meantime we will be writing to the Chief Constable to ask for a full report on Saturday’s events. Fans should contact the club by using the following email addresses 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 amms, you normally post a lot of sense, but this is so far removed from any logic that I have to think kuznetsov has found out where you live and has hijacked you wifi. Think about it! These self-regarding blowhards demanded that, Strathclyde Police devote additional police time, manpower, resources and funding to escort them on their 'march' from whichever boozer they were getting tanked up in along to Celtic park, where they were going to be going anyway. In other words, the taxpayer would be paying for additional police just so that these pseudo-revolutionary pricks can feel big about themselves. The cops were quite right to tell them to GTF This has nothing to do with freedom of expression; these twats weren't marching about the bedroom tax, or the referendum or to save the whale. They could have made their way to the ground, as they do every week, and held a protest there about whatever the fuck it is that they're whinging about this month. No, they were asking the public pay for Police to walk alongside them and make them feel self-important. Marches cost money to police and there was no justification for spending any public money on this 'march'. As to the Police response; the cops were faced with an organisation that deliberately and publicly challenged the authority of the police for no other reason than self-agrandisement. The cops had to show them that it's the Police who make public order decisions, not some mob of boozed up plastic paddies. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 In my opinion they should have been allowed to march to Parkhead if they applied too. That's surely a democratic right for all of us, eroding that, even for people we dislike, is a slippery slope. Likewise the Union Bears, I can see no good reason why their march was banned. Surely the police should be there to facilitate people's right to protest, not prevent it? Going by what I read on another report, the marchers were informed that they would not be allowed to march on the road due to not having the proper permissions/authority etc - it would have been deemed an illegal march. They were informed that they were free to stick to the pavements & the Police would assist. The Green Brigade chose to ignore the Police's instructions and proceeded to march on the road, therefore causing danger to themselves and other road users. By intentionally choosing to ignore the Police requests, they were then guilty of wrong doing (kind sounds like something connected with a witch hunt of an EBT trial... ) The Green Brigade basically brought it on on themselves!!!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMazza 0 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Amms, I get what you are saying but as they marched anyway, what did they expect? If the dickhead EDL applied for a march, were refused & did it anyway, I can't imagine many people would argue with the police presence. You ignore the law, it's your own problem. Maybe the police had a reason for denying the march (or whomever makes the decision). Rangers fans were denied a march and never went. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bear 0 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 We should all guard our civil liberties jealously and respect for authority shouldn't be unconditional, but I have a major issue with a football supporters group which chooses a pseudo paramilitary name with obvious Irish republican connotations and then bleats about their human rights being infringed when they ignore official instructions. If you want to engage in civil disobedience, then accept you're going to have your match day experience spoilt you clowns. As for the genius who takes his kids on an illegal protest march... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 0 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Going by what I read on another report, the marchers were informed that they would not be allowed to march on the road due to not having the proper permissions/authority etc - it would have been deemed an illegal march. They were informed that they were free to stick to the pavements & the Police would assist. The Green Brigade chose to ignore the Police's instructions and proceeded to march on the road, therefore causing danger to themselves and other road users. By intentionally choosing to ignore the Police requests, they were then guilty of wrong doing (kind sounds like something connected with a witch hunt of an EBT trial... ) The Green Brigade basically brought it on on themselves!!!! According to reports half of them turned up with scarves covering their faces.....at least small children and babies were spared the frightening experience of seeing their ugly coupons. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,330 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm going to be fairly unpopular here but I've a degree of sympathy with aspects of what happened on Saturday. I also think the law regarding football supporters and how it is currently being enforced is draconian and over-the-top. So I broadly support an organisation protesting about it. The author's point about them applying for a licence to march and it being rejected is valid. But why was it rejected, who decides who can and who can't make protests in this country now? I don't particularly like the Green Brigade. Aside from being a generation removed from them and feeling every year of it there is a political side to them I strongly disagree with and that's before we get into their horrific choice of team they support. But if it's possible to ignore that for a minute then I'm actually in broad agreement with the point they were trying to make. In my opinion they should have been allowed to march to Parkhead if they applied too. That's surely a democratic right for all of us, eroding that, even for people we dislike, is a slippery slope. Likewise the Union Bears, I can see no good reason why their march was banned. Surely the police should be there to facilitate people's right to protest, not prevent it? That they chose to ignore the ban is asking for trouble, however I'm not sure they weren't right too. The law is an ass on this, somebody needs to highlight that. On top of that the police response does seem to have been over-the-top. Was their no other crime in Glasgow on Saturday afternoon that hundreds of officers could be mobilised to contain a similar amount of football supporters? The minute you put a football scarf on you are viewed differently by the law, many of the rights you believe you have are removed. Any of us who has attended football matches over the years will have experienced this, and it has got worse recently. The Green Brigade clearly have members who are utter pricks. But I'm kind of siding with them on this, as uncomfortable as that is to say publicly. Certain notice periods have to be given to allow public marches. I believe that it is 28 days. There has to be all sorts of guarantees given as to stewarding and a whole load of other conditions. I'm guessing that they didn't comply with any of that therefore their request was correctly rejected. Why should the Green Brigade be allowed to ignore the rules that are in place for all other organisations? I don't see why the law is an ass in this case. The rules appear to be reasonable and ar there for everyone's safety. I don't see any reason to side with the Green Brigade. The UBs correctly cancelled their march when permission wasn't given and why should the GB not be subject to the proper rules of the city? The police response was appropriate. I don't see why the public should be terrorised by a bunch of terrorist loving scum who are ignoring the law and doing whatever they want. We should be able to walk to football games without having to worry about that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The call comes after allegations of heavy-handed behaviour by police in dealing with a weekend march by members of the so-called Green Brigade Club officials have also said they will be writing to Strathclyde Police asking for a report on the events before Saturday's home match against Aberdeen. A club statement said: "The safety and well-being of Celtic supporters is of paramount importance to the Club. "The Club is very concerned to see imagery of Saturdayâ??s march by members of the Green Brigade from Gallowgate to Celtic Park, and subsequent claims by supporters of police harassment and heavy-handed policing. "This is an issue which the Club takes very seriously. "Once again we would urge any supporter who feels that they have been a victim of such harassment to contact the Club with details in order that we can formally raise such matters with Strathclyde Police. "We should remind supporters that the Club has set up a working group, which is independently chaired, to establish a Complaints Review Panel to oversee the complaintsâ?? process and improve transparency. "Any suggestion of collusion between the Club and Strathclyde Police is, quite frankly, ludicrous. "The Celtic support has a long and well-established reputation for good behaviour and everyone is very proud of that and keen to ensure that it continues. "In the meantime we will be writing to the Chief Constable to ask for a full report on Saturdayâ??s events. Fans should contact the club by using the following email addresses Surely that's not a real statement from Celtic it must be a wind up. Long and well established reputation for good behaviour, Either that or ST renewals are due at Porkheid and Liewell is getting desperate, you dance with the Devil Peter eventually its going to bite you on the arse. Hope you get all that's coming ya fat turd. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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