Britney feels the FURY !!!!!

[barca72 440]

From The Rangers Standard -

 

http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/forum/article-debate/17548-graham-spiers-misquotes-neil-patey-on-bbc-radio

 

 

Graham Spiers Misquotes Neil Patey on BBC Radio #2080 Chris Graham

 

On Saturday, I appeared on BBC Sportsound Extra to discuss a number of topics relating to Rangers. At the end of the show the issue of whether Rangers were a â??new clubâ? was discussed in the context of an agenda by certain people in the media. I cited the opinion of the SFA, the European Club Association, Lord Glennie and Lord Nimmo Smith who have all made it clear that they recognise that the club has continued despite a new company owning and operating it. For the avoidance of doubt the quotes I was alluding to are included below.

 

SFA, Tuesday 17th July 2012 â?? â??Sevco Scotland Ltd bought Rangers Football Club PLCâ??s share in the SPL and membership of the Scottish FA as part of their acquisition of assets. Under Article 14.1, Sevco Scotland are requesting the transfer of the existing membership of Oldco. This is different to an application for a new membership, which generally requires four years of financial statements.â?

 

SFA, Friday 3rd August 2012 â?? â??The Scottish FA can confirm that The Rangers Football Club Ltd have today received confirmation that full membership of the Association has been transferredâ?.

 

Lord Nimmo Smith, 12th September 2012 - â??In common speech a Club is treated as a recognisable entity which is capable of being owned and operated, and which continues in existence despite its transfer to another owner or operator. It is the Club, not its owner and operator, which plays in the league.â?

 

Lord Glennie, 6th June 2012,also made clear the distinction between club and company when he said:

 

â??This is a petition for judicial review by the Rangers Football Club plc, a company presently in administration. That company presently operates Rangers Football Club (to whom I shall refer as "Rangers")â?

 

My comments got something of a reaction from Graham Spiers who countered my position by saying that he had spoken to several unnamed â??insolvency peopleâ? who had said there was â??no debate about it that Rangers are a new clubâ?. When pressed he then stated the following.

 

â??Neil Patey was on TV throughout last year and I asked him about it because guys like Chris and other Rangers fans became very touchy about this old club, new club thing. Neil Patey said that technically they are a new clubâ?

 

I have also spoken to Neil Patey on many occasions about Rangers and I never recalled him saying anything of the sort. So I called him. Neil was kind enough to provide me with a quote on what he actually thinks the position of Rangers is as opposed to the way it was represented by Graham Spiers. He said:

 

â??My view is that it is like many other business acquisitions where the assets, people, trade and trading names are "acquired" by another entity. It is a new legal entity, but essentially the old business continues. So it is right to say that it is a newco in legal terms, but the "club" is a continuation of the old one. Then it is up to football authorities if they confer membership and titles that "belonged" to oldco, which they obviously appear to have done.â?

 

So there we have it. Neil Patey does not think that Rangers are a new club. In fact he thinks quite the opposite. Like any other professional expert in this area he can make the clear differentiation between the club and the company - something which is backed up in the comments by Lord Nimmo Smith and Lord Glennie above. He also recognises the unique role of the football authorities in this case and acknowledges that they have confirmed Rangers status as the same club.

 

I would hope that Graham Spiers would now acknowledge that what he said was inaccurate and that he misrepresented Neil Pateyâ??s view on the subject.

 

If you want to listen to the podcast of the show you can get it here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rr7v2 . The final 10 mins has the discussion in question.

[Zappa 0]

Every time Chris shows up and owns Spiers like this, Britney's knickers get even more twisted. I think he's going to burst one of these days.

[Blue Moon 1,116]

Every time this happens he comes out with a vile attack on the club.

 

Wonder what he's writing right now.

[bluebear54 0]

Why is Spiers so bitter and twisted? Why does he feel the need to alienate the Rangers support?

He's presumably had an expensive training in objective journalism but what has caused a semi-bright guy to morph into a one sided opinionated caricature of himself?

I don't get it.

Unless he's been bought and paid for.

[Thinker 886]

Any chance we could get Chris to be spokesperson for the club instead of Green?

[ian1964 10,429]

Every time Chris shows up and owns Spiers like this, Britney's knickers get even more twisted. I think he's going to burst one of these days.

 

Thing is Chris only states facts,whereas Britney!.........................well it's no wonder he gets himself caught out time and time again.

[aweebluesoandso 290]

Spiers is no more a Journalist than I am still an astronaut, since i was made redundant from the NASA Mars landing team. He is however a bigger and better liar than i am.

[RANGERRAB 3,276]

Media standards in general in Scotland have deteriorated so low in recent times. The likes of Speirs, Cosgrove, English, Keevins etc cannot hide their bias and make no attempt to do so.

I've said before & will say again it's time the likes of BBC Scotland, Radio Clyde & the Daily Record were given indefinite bans by Rangers from Ibrox & MP until they improved their reporting of Rangers to an acceptable level.

[amms 0]

Media standards in general in Scotland have deteriorated so low in recent times. The likes of Speirs, Cosgrove, English, Keevins etc cannot hide their bias and make no attempt to do so.

I've said before & will say again it's time the likes of BBC Scotland, Radio Clyde & the Daily Record were given indefinite bans by Rangers from Ibrox & MP until they improved their reporting of Rangers to an acceptable level.

 

See I've no problem with people having a bias or a favourite. Hugh Keevins was raised a Celtic supporter, I know this and as such I read his stuff knowing it is framed by that background. That shouldn't discount him from having an opinion or expressing it or anyone from disagreeing with it. What I don't understand is the self belief some hold that they are 'neutral', they clearly aren't, and why should they be?

I've always felt that Speirs background has led him to over-compensate. For a long time he was one of very few Scottish sport's journalists willing to say he had been a Rangers supporter, ironically whilst writing articles that angered huge swathes of us. He found success with this and so has kept that style.

 

However I think English is one of the few 'neutrals', I genuinely don't think he's got a favourite here, most southern Irish don't actually. He writes stuff I disagree with, he makes mistakes, but I don't think they are just bad journalism as opposed to anything more sinister.

[BeardyGuts 6]

See I've no problem with people having a bias or a favourite. Hugh Keevins was raised a Celtic supporter, I know this and as such I read his stuff knowing it is framed by that background. That shouldn't discount him from having an opinion or expressing it or anyone from disagreeing with it. What I don't understand is the self belief some hold that they are 'neutral', they clearly aren't, and why should they be?

I've always felt that Speirs background has led him to over-compensate. For a long time he was one of very few Scottish sport's journalists willing to say he had been a Rangers supporter, ironically whilst writing articles that angered huge swathes of us. He found success with this and so has kept that style.

 

However I think English is one of the few 'neutrals', I genuinely don't think he's got a favourite here, most southern Irish don't actually. He writes stuff I disagree with, he makes mistakes, but I don't think they are just bad journalism as opposed to anything more sinister.

 

100% agree with this. Especially in Scotland where it is almost guaranteed that even if someone doesn't support Rangers or Celtic they usually have sympathies one way or the other.

I like the way Talksport handle this, the majority of the time someone comes on, even a journo they pretty much always say who the person supports.