craig 5,195 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The Fellaini move was desperation on his part, I think Fergie left at the right time. He saw they were done and needed a massive overhaul 27 million for Fellaini or 40 million for Ozil..... Moyes stayed within his comfort zone instead of acting as Man U manager. Man U are a far bigger club than taking on players like Fellaini - I know there is a sense that managers will go with who they know, but Fellaini was neither the quality nor the TYPE of player they needed. They have pressing concerns all over the pitch right now. CB - Ferdinand is done. Vidic will leave in summer if not this month. Smalling, Jones & Evans arent of the quality they need LB - Evra is getting past it. No proper replacement. CM - where do you start here.... he bought Fellaini but Carrick is good enough in the holding role. They needed a replacement for a young Scholes - a creative midfielder who will score you 10-15 goals a season. RM - Valencia nor Nani are the answer LM - Not convince Young is the answer - so they will need to rely on Januzai, who has great potential, but will he lack consistency. An interesting stat.... It took SIXTEEN Premier League games this season before a Man U midfielder scored OR assisted a goal. That is a simply incredible stat for a team like Man U. At the very least they need : CB CB LB RM CM CM At the VERY LEAST. They are a club who will have to spend big or they will head into decline quickly, if they havent already started 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Number of games won by Man Utd managers at this stage: Moyes 18 Busby 15 Atkinson 14 Ferguson 12 Sexton 12 Docherty 10. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Man Utd have a pretty dire team and their squad is much worse than the top 4. Fergie winning trophies with such a poor squad is admirable but equally the fact he's signed so many poor players in the last 10 years suggests he is overrated. Rooney and a fit RVP are the only players in the Man Utd team that would get near the Chelsea team. Januzaj is quality but Chelsea have Oscar, Mata, Hazard, Willian etc who are all superior. For the record, Moyes proved at Everton that he's a decent manager but I don't think he is a great one. He was a strange appointment really. A club like Man Utd should be appointing a manager with a proven pedigree of competing for trophies and Champions League experience. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 27 million for Fellaini or 40 million for Ozil..... Moyes stayed within his comfort zone instead of acting as Man U manager. Man U are a far bigger club than taking on players like Fellaini - I know there is a sense that managers will go with who they know, but Fellaini was neither the quality nor the TYPE of player they needed. They have pressing concerns all over the pitch right now. CB - Ferdinand is done. Vidic will leave in summer if not this month. Smalling, Jones & Evans arent of the quality they need LB - Evra is getting past it. No proper replacement. CM - where do you start here.... he bought Fellaini but Carrick is good enough in the holding role. They needed a replacement for a young Scholes - a creative midfielder who will score you 10-15 goals a season. RM - Valencia nor Nani are the answer LM - Not convince Young is the answer - so they will need to rely on Januzai, who has great potential, but will he lack consistency. An interesting stat.... It took SIXTEEN Premier League games this season before a Man U midfielder scored OR assisted a goal. That is a simply incredible stat for a team like Man U. At the very least they need : CB CB LB RM CM CM At the VERY LEAST. They are a club who will have to spend big or they will head into decline quickly, if they havent already started Fellaini is better as AMC instead of in the holding role. He proved at Everton that he's a quality player. The Man Utd side is terrible. Reminds me of Walter leaving our squad a mess before DA came in. Like our situation, Man Utd need to splash the cash. They produce zilch decent youth players so they need to go out and buy a tonne of top players. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,195 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Number of games won by Man Utd managers at this stage: Moyes 18 Busby 15 Atkinson 14 Ferguson 12 Sexton 12 Docherty 10. That is an artificial table though Gav. Do you honestly think that Atkinson or Ferguson inherited nearly as good a team as Moyes did. Ageing or not, the team Fergie inherited wasnt anywhere near the top of English football and he had to build them into that. Moyes inherited the champions who should, at the very least, be close to challenging. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,138 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 some of the players he has are past their sell buy date 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 That is an artificial table though Gav. Do you honestly think that Atkinson or Ferguson inherited nearly as good a team as Moyes did. Ageing or not, the team Fergie inherited wasnt anywhere near the top of English football and he had to build them into that. Moyes inherited the champions who should, at the very least, be close to challenging. An artificial table? Analyse it however you like but the figures mentioned are fact. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 I keep hearing pundits saying its an ageing team but its anything like an old squad. Only Ferdinand and Giggs are nearing the end of their careers. Evra, Carrick and Vidic are wrong side of 30 but could easily do 2 years at the top level. De Gea, Rafael, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Cleverley, Juanazai and Zaha are all young. The players like Rooney, Van Persie, Hernandez, Young, Nani, Valencia, Fletcher, Felliani and Kagawa should all be at their peak. Its all about the lack of quality. Throw Mata and Modric into that squad and all of a sudden it would look very different. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Devlin Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Moyes is a tool, it's funny while it lasts but he'll get the team back on top within 5 years. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 That is an artificial table though Gav. Do you honestly think that Atkinson or Ferguson inherited nearly as good a team as Moyes did. Ageing or not, the team Fergie inherited wasnt anywhere near the top of English football and he had to build them into that. Moyes inherited the champions who should, at the very least, be close to challenging. Moyes has inherited a very poor team... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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