the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 If there is nothing more than a vision, then it won't be. A large body of the support have been scunnered by a succession of empty promises and will not be swayed by noise emanating from the RST or RF. I'm not sure why we're on this tangent to my original point but it's getting more obtuse. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,151 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I think King 'speaks' well enough in his letter but with the best will in the world most people won't buy until they know what they're buying. Of course King has to try and sell the product which explains the emotional stuff but to achieve the kind of numbers we need going forward, we need more than a play on our loyalty. Hopefully that will start to be evident from early next week (or even later today). Edited June 12, 2015 by Frankie 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I think King 'speaks' well enough in his letter but with the best will in the world most people won't buy until they know what they're buying. Of course King has to try and sell the product which explains the emotional stuff but to achieve the kind of numbers we need going forward, we need more than a play on our loyalty. Hopefully that will start to be evident from early next week (or even later today). King will get a lot of season ticket shifted on the back of that letter, you just have to go round the forums. It has generally been well received, but to reach the wider support not on the forums wider exposer is needed. The staunch are rallying to his cause, without details of the product on the field, King's work on this is far from finished and i agree with you Frankie, more meat on the bones and more work to get the prodigal sons backs. Edited June 12, 2015 by aweebluesoandso 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,151 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 King will get a lot of season ticket shifted on the back of that letter, you just have to go round the forums. It has generally been well received, but to reach the wider support not on the forums wider exposer is needed. The staunch are rallying to his cause, without details of the product on the field, King's work on this is far from finished and i agree with you Frankie, more meat on the bones and more work to get the prodigal sons backs. Going by last season's sales, it seems we have around 20,000 fans that will buy no matter the political or football situation so I suspect somewhere around that figure (perhaps a bit less) will renew regardless of who the manager is. However, despite King saying he's willing to meet any shortfall, it's imperative to his plans that he sells much closer to 35,000. That's where key appointments will prove their worth so fingers crossed they meet our expectations. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,251 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 We are Rangers! I've always been a fan anyway, to beg people to buy ST's is beyond me after all the crap we've had to go through. If I want it I'll take it, if you beg me then you belittle it. Put the product on the park and I'll follow follow as before. Don't beg my money ffs! I actually thought I heard it all before, but really mate ... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 He hasn't said anything new, nor has he provided anything tangible for the unconvinced to enthuse over. The only thing that is missing from that piece of recycled Traynor nonsense is a reference to the Champions League anthem! Same rhetoric minus the Yorkshire accent. Perhaps king should also threaten to sack staff if we don't buy. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Going by last season's sales, it seems we have around 20,000 fans that will buy no matter the political or football situation so I suspect somewhere around that figure (perhaps a bit less) will renew regardless of who the manager is. However, despite King saying he's willing to meet any shortfall, it's imperative to his plans that he sells much closer to 35,000. That's where key appointments will prove their worth so fingers crossed they meet our expectations. The pessimist in me thinks he knows fine well we wont get near 45k and lower than that number gives them an excuse for having no transfer kitty and needing to go with cheaper managerial options. No matter how you play with the sums+vehicle+timeframes it seems the only viable outcome to me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,151 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) The pessimist in me thinks he knows fine well we wont get near 45k and lower than that number gives them an excuse for having no transfer kitty and needing to go with cheaper managerial options. No matter how you play with the sums+vehicle+timeframes it seems the only viable outcome to me. The manager will be appointed long before any final season ticket sale tally so no excuses there. Like I say King has said he'll make up any ticketing shortfall so if we say we'll sell 30,000 then that leaves him £6.15m to find for this season on top of £12.3m brought in by those 30,000. Edited June 12, 2015 by Frankie 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The manager will be appointed long before any final season ticket sale tally so no excuses there. Like I say King has said he'll make up any ticketing shortfall so if we say we'll sell 30,000 then that leaves him £6.15m to find for this season on top of £12.3m brought in by those 30,000. Is the average season ticket priced at over £400? King stated at the launch that 45,000 sales would bring in roughly that £12.3m. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 30k will equate to nearer £8m-9m We expect 45k to bring £12m That also means zero in transfers and no increase in footballing costs at all unless we make large cuts elsewhere 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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